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<DIV><FONT size=2>Saundra, <EM>et al</EM>,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Aside from the issue of health insurance costs, which is very
important to most all of us, the other very troubling issue here is the
failure of UI to obey the public records laws. Those laws were made so
that citizens could intelligently and informationally understand, comment upon,
and influence our so-called government by and of the people.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I have found educational institutions to be very arrogant
about releasing information, especially information that might place them in
less than a bright, charming light. [This is even more true of almost all
non-government institutions.]</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Perhaps the UI is taking lessons from Walter Steed, who spent
City of Moscow money trying to avoid turning over public records, then deleted
most of them before turning a few over.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Hiding information to which the public is legally entitled is
a sure sign that something(s) illegal, unethical and/or very stupid has
occurred.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>This is a lesson that Moscow voters need to relearn before the
coming elections. It is also a sign that the governor needs to clean house
at the State Board of Education which allows the UI to continually fart in the
faces of taxpayers and other members of the public where public records requests
are concerned.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Art Deco</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Wayne A. Fox<BR>1009 Karen Lane<BR>PO Box 9421<BR>Moscow,
ID 83843</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><A href="mailto:waf@moscow.com">waf@moscow.com</A><BR>208
882-7975</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=v2020@ssl.fastmail.fm href="mailto:v2020@ssl.fastmail.fm">Saundra
Lund</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=rforce2003@yahoo.com
href="mailto:rforce2003@yahoo.com">'Ron Force'</A> ; <A
title=godshatter@yahoo.com href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">'Paul
Rumelhart'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">'Moscow Vision 2020'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 06, 2009 10:24
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] ID Public
Records Law: UI</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Ron,
do you happen to know what retiree & dependent health insurance rates are
now, and if so, do you care to share?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">While
the rates & coverage details were publicly available until the last couple
of years, it’s now apparently Top Secret.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">And,
I’m not sure retiree health care is a significant budgetary expense any
longer. I have a HBT (Health Benefits Trust) FY2009 Overall Financial
Profile prepared by the UI ending June 30, 2009, and the numbers are . . .
interesting. Employer Contribution is listed as $37,897.08; Employee (or
retiree, presumably) Contribution is $2,664,358.28 for Total Contributions of
$2,702,255.36.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Total
Expenses (that includes EAP, medical, psychological, dental, and AON
insurance) were $2,165,360.70. That total is clearly less than the money
collected from retirees, yes?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Of
course, I’m just an ignorant crackpot who surely doesn’t understand the
intricacies of things like this, so I’m sure there must be some explanation
that just looking at the numbers fails to tell. I’d be happy to learn
the explanation, but since the info is apparently Top Secret, and since UI
counsel apparently feels it’s appropriate to blatantly ignore Public Records
Requests, I’m left in the dark.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I’ll
also add that State employees and their dependents <B>are</B> eligible for
health insurance, although I don’t know how those rates or plan details
which I have compare to those of UI retirees since the UI details seem to be
Top Secret info for the UI in recent years.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Saundra
Lund<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Moscow,
ID<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">The
only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
nothing.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">~
Edmund Burke<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">*****
Original material contained herein is Copyright 2009 through life plus 70
years, Saundra Lund. Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside
the Vision 2020 forum without the express written permission of the
author.*****<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Ron Force
[mailto:rforce2003@yahoo.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 06, 2009 9:53
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Paul Rumelhart; Saundra Lund<BR><B>Cc:</B> Moscow Vision
2020<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] ID Public Records Law:
UI<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">In my previous
missive, I forgot another issue that the UI is dealing with: retiree health
insurance. The UI is the only state agency that continued health
insurance for retirees that met at least the rule of 80 (combination of
age and years of service). They provide primary insurance until the
retiree is 65 and qualifies for Medicare, then acts as a secondary insurance,
covering costs not paid by Medicare above a $2000 deductible. This
benefit has been withdrawn for all new employees, and scaled back for those
not retired yet, but carrying this is, I believe, a significant budgetary
expense. The state doesn't contribute anything to this benefit. It was
started thirty-some years ago as a nice thing to do without much thought as to
how it would be funded. Of course, they didn't forsee the astronomical
increase in the cost of health insurance.<BR><BR>Ron Force<BR>Moscow ID
USA<BR>><BR><BR>Saundra, you paint a dismal picture of the UI health care
plan. Are <BR>there any positives that can be seen anywhere? Aside
from the <BR>apparently small demographic I fall
into?<BR><BR>Paul<BR><BR><BR>=======================================================<BR>List
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