Gary --<br><br>Do those of us who didn't vote for him get to be citizens too, or is it just you "real Americans?"<br><br>-- ACS<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 1:42 PM, g. crabtree <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">jampot@roadrunner.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Does it occur to you that great majority of Senator
Crapo's constituents do not want government to be involved with health care,
universal or otherwise, any more then they already are? Also that a great
many of us believe that governmental involvement is too great as is and would be
far happier to see the feds cut out of the whole health industry equation
altogether. When Mr. Crapo "complains" he complains for us, those who elected
him.</font></div>
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<b>From:</b>
<a title="bear@moscow.com" href="mailto:bear@moscow.com" target="_blank">Wayne Price</a> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b> <a title="lfalen@turbonet.com" href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com" target="_blank">lfalen</a> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a> </div>
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<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Fw: CRAPO WARNS
OF COSTS TO SENIORS, STATES</div>
<div><br></div>Roger,
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<div>Mike Crapo has been in Congress since January 1993, and now he comes up
with, "Rushing the bill through will also be disastrous for states, Crapo
said. "</div>
<div>What has he done on a universal health care bill for the last 16 years?
He sat on his hands for 16 years, never came up with one of his own,</div>
<div>and now wants to complain. He is just too little, too late.</div>
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<div>On Sep 26, 2009, at 11:47 AM, lfalen wrote:</div><br>
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<div vlink="blue" link="blue" lang="EN-US"><br>-----Original
message-----<br><br>From: "Crapo News Release (Crapo)"<span> </span><a style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:newsclips@crapo.senate.gov" target="_blank">newsclips@crapo.senate.gov</a><br>
Date:
Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:17:54 -0700<br>To:<span> </span><br>Subject: CRAPO WARNS OF COSTS
TO SENIORS, STATES<br><br>FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
CONTACT:
Susan Wheeler (202) 224-5150<br><br>September 24, 2009
Lindsay
Nothern (208) 344-1108<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>CRAPO WARNS OF
COSTS TO SENIORS, STATES<br><br>60,000 Idaho seniors could lose benefits of
Medicare Advantage program<br><br><br><br>Washington, DC - Idaho Senator
Mike Crapo said today that senior citizens and state taxpayers will feel the
pain if health care reforms envisioned in the Senate Finance Committee are
approved by Congress. Crapo, a member of the Finance Committee,
charges the legislation could hurt senior citizens who enjoy coverage under
the popular Medicare Advantage program because that program may be cut by
$113 billion under the present proposal.<br><br><br><br>Crapo offered an
amendment to the bill today that would have stopped the reductions in
Medicare Advantage if those changes result in less competition and choice in
the insurance marketplace. He noted that Medicare Advantage saw a
whopping 426% increase in enrollment between 2003 and 2007 because the
program is popular, especially in rural areas where patients have limited
access to and choices for health care. "My amendment seeks to preserve
that choice," Crapo said, but the amendment was voted down over technical
objections.<br><br><br><br>"President Obama said 'if you like your present
insurance, you can keep it,' but that won't be the case for seniors who are
enrolled in Medicare Advantage," Crapo added, noting that enrollees in that
program will lose half their current Medicare Advantage benefits if the
present bill before the committee passes without further amendment.
"There are 60,000 people in Idaho enrolled in Medicare
Advantage-that's 27 percent of the Medicare population in Idaho. Those
affected by these cuts are 20 percent of the Medicare population
nationwide," he added. "That is not an insignificant proportion of our
seniors who will either see a loss in benefits or have to switch to another
program. That is not keeping your present insurance as the President
proposed."<br><br><br><br>The director of the Congressional Budget Office
(CBO), Douglas Elmendorf, has acknowledged that seniors enrolled in Medicare
Advantage will lose benefits under the plan. Because the legislation
has not been detailed, the CBO can't offer a fair cost
analysis.<br><br><br><br>Rushing the bill through will also be disastrous
for states, Crapo said. Cuts to the Medicare program by $500 billion
will result in higher costs for the states partnering in the program-costs
that will be passed along to state taxpayers. Crapo said the overall
health care bill could total $1.7 trillion over the full ten years of
implementing the program.<br><br><br><br>"Then there are the costs to those
who are happy with their existing insurance," Crapo noted. "The taxes
called for in this bill will be passed along-in the form of higher premiums,
higher costs for medical devices and potentially layoffs from employers
dealing with higher taxes.<br><br><br><br>"The markup in Committee has shown
that people will not be able to keep the health care they now have.
One of the most popular programs for seniors, particularly in rural
areas, will be negatively impacted under this bill," he
added.<br><br><br><br><br><br>To directly link to this news release, please
use the following address:<br><br><a style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" href="http://crapo.senate.gov/media/newsreleases/release_full.cfm?id=318260" target="_blank">http://crapo.senate.gov/media/newsreleases/release_full.cfm?id=318260</a><br>
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<div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium;"><b>Date:<span> </span></b></span><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium;">September 24, 2009 2:17:54
PM PDT<br></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium;"><b>Subject:<span> </span></b></span><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium;"><b>CRAPO WARNS OF COSTS TO
SENIORS, STATES</b><br></span></div><br><br>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 4in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt;"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt;">FOR
IMMEDIATE
RELEASE
CONTACT: Susan Wheeler (202) 224-5150</span></font></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 4in; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt;"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt;">September 24,
2009
Lindsay Nothern (208) 344-1108</span></font></div>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt;"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt;"></span></font> </p>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt;"><a name="123f8171d49254f1_OLE_LINK3"></a><a name="123f8171d49254f1_OLE_LINK2"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt;"></span></font></a> </div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: center; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt;"><b><font size="5" face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 18pt; font-weight: bold;">CRAPO WARNS
OF COSTS TO SENIORS, STATES</span></font></b></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: center; line-height: 17px; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt;"><b><i><font size="4" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="line-height: 20px; font-style: italic; font-family: Arial; color: black; font-size: 14pt; font-weight: bold;">60,000
Idaho seniors could lose benefits of Medicare Advantage
program</span></font></i></b></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: center; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt;"><i><font size="1" face="Arial"><span style="font-style: italic; font-family: Arial; font-size: 8pt;"></span></font></i> </div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt;"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt;">Washington, DC – Idaho Senator
Mike Crapo said today that senior citizens and state taxpayers will feel the
pain if health care reforms envisioned in the Senate Finance Committee are
approved by Congress. Crapo, a member of the Finance Committee,
charges the legislation could hurt senior citizens who enjoy coverage under
the popular Medicare Advantage program because that program may be cut by
$113 billion under the present proposal. </span></font></div>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt;"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt;"></span></font> </p>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt;"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt;">Crapo
offered an amendment to the bill today that would have stopped the
reductions in Medicare Advantage if those changes result in less competition
and choice in the insurance marketplace. He noted that Medicare
Advantage saw a whopping 426% increase in enrollment between 2003 and 2007
because the program is popular, especially in rural areas where patients
have limited access to and choices for health care. “My amendment
seeks to preserve that choice,” Crapo said, but the amendment was voted down
over technical objections.</span></font></div>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt;"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt;"></span></font> </p>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt;"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt;">“President Obama said ‘if you
like your present insurance, you can keep it,’ but that won’t be the case
for seniors who are enrolled in Medicare Advantage,” Crapo added, noting
that enrollees in that program will lose half their current Medicare
Advantage benefits if the present bill before the committee passes without
further amendment. “There are 60,000 people in Idaho enrolled in
Medicare Advantage—that’s 27 percent of the Medicare population in
Idaho. Those affected by these cuts are 20 percent of the Medicare
population nationwide,” he added. “That is not an insignificant
proportion of our seniors who will either see a loss in benefits or have to
switch to another program. That is not keeping your present insurance
as the President proposed.”</span></font></div>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt;"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt;"></span></font> </p>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt;"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt;">The
director of the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), Douglas Elmendorf, has
acknowledged that seniors enrolled in Medicare Advantage will lose benefits
under the plan. Because the legislation has not been detailed, the CBO
can’t offer a fair cost analysis.</span></font></div>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt;"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt;"></span></font> </p>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt;"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt;">Rushing
the bill through will also be disastrous for states, Crapo said. Cuts
to the Medicare program by $500 billion will result in higher costs for the
states partnering in the program—costs that will be passed along to state
taxpayers. Crapo said the overall health care bill could total $1.7
trillion over the full ten years of implementing the
program.</span></font></div>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt;"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt;"></span></font> </p>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt;"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt;">“Then
there are the costs to those who are happy with their existing insurance,”
Crapo noted. “The taxes called for in this bill will be passed
along—in the form of higher premiums, higher costs for medical devices and
potentially layoffs from employers dealing with higher
taxes. </span></font></div>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt;"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt;"></span></font> </p>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt;"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt;">“The
markup in Committee has shown that people will not be able to keep the
health care they now have. One of the most popular programs for
seniors, particularly in rural areas, will be negatively impacted under this
bill,” he added. </span></font></div>
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