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<DIV>Keely,</DIV>
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<DIV>There is a small difference between an atheist, as the word is commonly
used, and a nonbeliever. I am the latter. An atheist asserts there
is no god, while a nonbeliever believes the probability of those assertions
about the existence or the characteristics of any alleged god(s) are very close
to zero. Some of these assertions may be nonsense in the way the logical
positivists used that word, and therefore not capable of being either true or
false. A nonbeliever allows the possibility that in some way at sometime
certain statements about various gods could have their probability of truth
increased.</DIV>
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<DIV>As to Cultmaster Wilson:</DIV>
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<DIV>We agree that Wilson is, in both words and deeds, of extreme distance from
the Christ of the Synoptic Gospels (<EM>Matthew, Mark, and Luke)</EM>. He
is so far from that ideal that it would not be amiss to call him an antichrist
(as several have). Many believe that Calvinism is the most extreme
perversion of Christianity, and that its adherents are not Christians, but
heretics, since they reject the central and most distinguishing teaching of
Christ in his religious tradition -- the importance of good works as the ticket
to blissful eternal life.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>It may well be that the Cultmaster's rejection in essence of the
Christ of the Synoptic Gospels is the reason that Doug Jones could no longer in
good conscience continue his Christ Church Cult ministry.
Should Jones's conscience persist and grow, perhaps we may learn some more
of the horrors that have occurred in the cult. Revelations of such may
deter others from being sucked into such an evil vortex.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The following cite not only reveals the cult nature of Christ Church but
gives a bit of insight into the crackpotism and con artistry of Cultmaster
Wilson:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff>Commitment to Loyalty</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff>I pledge to conduct myself in such a way that no one
could ever question my<BR>loyalty to the peace and purity of Christ Church. This
includes refusing to<BR>speak to any unauthorized person about grievances I
might have, and includes<BR>refusing to hear any such criticisms as well. If
commitment to this standard in<BR>any way compromises my conscience, then I
understand that my resignation will<BR>be accepted, without notice, and without
prejudice.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Why would any church professing to be Christian require such an oath that
prevents members from having an open discussion with others not of their faith
about that faith? Talk about paranoia! Talk about a total lack of
confidence in the truth of their teachings!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>AND we all know about the horrifically unpleasant things perpetrated by
Wilson and his cult bullies toward those that leave the cult. Hence,
the last phrase in the cite above is an outrageous lie.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>It is easy to see why these kinds of things turn people
off organized religion. Those who are not ovine fools or blinded by
extreme need cannot help but to see the egregious, self-importance driven
fraud.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>Art Deco</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>Wayne A. Fox<BR>1009 Karen Lane<BR>PO Box 9421<BR>Moscow, ID
83843</DIV>
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<DIV><A href="mailto:waf@moscow.com">waf@moscow.com</A><BR>208 882-7975</DIV>
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<A title=kjajmix1@msn.com href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com">keely emerinemix</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=deco@moscow.com
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 22, 2009 9:24
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Vision2020] USAToday:
People with 'no religion' gaining on major denominations</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Astonishingly enough, this born-again Christian finds herself
agreeing with Art Deco, a self-professed atheist, that Wilson has had a
terrible effect on how people view Christianity. I suspect, though, that
we differ on how important that is; while Wayne notes the information below
with tongue firmly planted in cheek, I'm pretty much heartbroken. I
can't speak for him, of course, but as for me -- well, I see how Wilson
proclaims, in word and deed, a Gospel that bears little resemblance to
Christ's message, and I think it's a lamentable truth that too many people on
the Palouse shrink back not just from Wilson, but from the Christ he
represents.<BR><BR>It won't show up in statistical tables, but if even one
person turns his or her back on Jesus Christ and his message because of the
bad behavior of Doug Wilson, that's a tragedy, one that merits notice but
evidently isn't enough to shake the complacency and willful ignorance of
Moscow's evangelicals.<BR><BR><FONT color=#8064a2><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt" size=3><FONT
face=Verdana>Keely<BR>www.keely-prevailingwinds.com<BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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From: deco@moscow.com<BR>To: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009
08:56:02 -0700<BR>Subject: [Vision2020] USAToday: People with 'no religion'
gaining on major denominations<BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Thank you Cultmaster Douglas Wilson for contributing
motivation for the trend below.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2><A
href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2009-09-22-no-religion_N.htm">http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2009-09-22-no-religion_N.htm</A></FONT></DIV>
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<TD><SPAN class=ecxinside-head><STRONG><FONT size=6>People with 'no
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<DIV id=ecxbyLineTag class=ecxbyline>By Cathy Lynn Grossman, USA TODAY</DIV>
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<DIV class=ecxinside-copy>Americans who don't identify with any religion are
now 15% of the USA, but trends in a new study shows they could one day surpass
the nation's largest denominations — including Catholics, now 24% of the
nation.</DIV>
<P class=ecxinside-copy><I>American Nones: Profile of the No Religion
Population</I>, to be released today by Trinity College, finds this faith-free
group already includes nearly 19% of U.S. men and 12% of women. Of these, 35%
say they were Catholic at age 12.</P>
<P class=ecxinside-copy></P>
<DIV class=ecxinside-copy><B>FAITH & REASON: </B><A
href="http://content.usatoday.com/communities/religion/post/2009/03/63756713/1">What's
your religious path: Any, many, one or none?</A></DIV>
<P class=ecxinside-copy>"Will a day come when the Nones are on top? We can't
predict for sure," says lead researcher Barry Kosmin.</P>
<P class=ecxinside-copy>But if Nones, now 22% of all adults ages 18 to 29,
continue to gain among young adults, to draw more people "switching out" from
denominations and to replace more religious older people, researchers forecast
one in five Americans will be Nones in 20 years.</P>
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<P class=ecxinside-copy>"Trends clearly favor this," Kosmin says. But he also
notes, "There could be a Great Awakening (massive Protestant revival) or
immigration may bring in more Catholic believers."</P>
<P class=ecxinside-copy>Kosmin and Ariela Keysar of Trinity College, Hartford,
Conn., directed three editions of the <A
href="http://www.americanreligionsurvey-aris.org/">American Religious
Identification Survey</A> over 18 years. The <A
href="http://www.americanreligionsurvey-aris.org/reports/ARIS_Report_2008.pdf">2008
ARIS (pdf)</A>, based on a sampling of 54,000 U.S. adults, also burrowed in
for a closer look at 1,106 Nones, who answered extra questions about their
beliefs and behaviors and views on God.</P>
<P class=ecxinside-copy></P>
<DIV class=ecxinside-copy><B>ARIS: </B><A
href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2009-03-09-american-religion-ARIS_N.htm">Most
religious groups have lost ground in USA</A></DIV>
<DIV class=ecxinside-copy><B>'NONES': </B><A
href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2009-03-09-aris-survey-nones_N.htm">Now
15% of population</A></DIV>
<P class=ecxinside-copy>The report finds:</P>
<P class=ecxinside-copy>•Not all Nones are alike. Half (51%) still believe in
God or a higher power.</P>
<P class=ecxinside-copy>•Nones also are the only major U. S. faith group
that's majority male. Even when girls grow up with unbelieving parents,
they're more likely to find a faith as adults than their brothers.</P>
<P class=ecxinside-copy>"Women are also less skeptical than men and less drawn
to irreligious and anti-religious views. They are more likely to reject a
secular upbringing," Kosmin says.</P>
<P class=ecxinside-copy>"There is a lot of 'churning' going on but Nones gain
much more from switching (people leaving religion) than from natural growth
(children emulating unbelieving parents)," he says.</P>
<P class=ecxinside-copy>•The percentage of atheist Nones — who say there's no
such thing as God — hasn't budged in years.</P>
<P class=ecxinside-copy>"It's not as though dozens of people at the Methodist
Church read (atheist Richard) Dawkins and suddenly decided God doesn't exist,"
says Kosmin.</P>
<P class=ecxinside-copy>"There are so many misconceptions about who the Nones
are. They're not New Age searchers or spiritual or even hardened atheists,"
says Kosmin.</P>
<P class=ecxinside-copy>"They're a stew of agnostics, deists and rationalists.
They sound more like <A title="More news, photos about Thomas Jefferson"
href="http://content.usatoday.com/topics/topic/People/Historical+Figures/Thomas+Jefferson">Thomas
Jefferson</A> and <A title="More news, photos about Tom Paine"
href="http://content.usatoday.com/topics/topic/Thomas+Paine">Tom Paine</A>.
Their very interesting enlightenment approach is like the Founding Fathers'
kind: Skeptical about organized religion and clerics while still holding to an
idea of God."</P>
<P class=ecxinside-copy>One quirky fact: 33% of Nones claim Irish ancestry,
although the U.S. Census says only 10% of the USA does.</P>
<P class=ecxinside-copy>"We have no idea why," he says. "Maybe you could ask
(Fox newscaster) <A title="More news, photos about Bill O'Reilly"
href="http://content.usatoday.com/topics/topic/People/Journalists,+Media,+Academia/Bill+O%27Reilly">Bill
O'Reilly</A>.</P>
<P class=ecxinside-copy>In some way, researchers found Nones are very much
like the overall, largely religious, U.S. population. There's no statistical
difference on education, or income or marital status. They are just as likely
to be divorced as anybody else.</P>
<P class=ecxinside-copy>"Nones are not a fringe group anymore and are now part
of Middle America. They're present in every socio-demographic group, Keysar
concludes in their report.</P></DIV><BR>
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