<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Just one comment on some of the last bit of this.<br><br></div><div>Andreas wrote:<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 15px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.289062); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.222656); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.222656); "> "While I feel that 'well you didn't condemn <span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.289062); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.222656); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.222656); ">your own side, either!' is a fair point to make, either people making</span></span></div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 15px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><span>vague threats against the President deserve to be condemned, or they </span><span>don't."</span><br><span></span><span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); font-size: 17px; "> </span></span></span><div>First, there is not enough time in the day to condemn everyone who does something wrong. If this were a fair point, you could make the same point everytime anyone condemned anyone.</div><div><br></div><div>Second, Crabtree does make this same stupid point -- an instance of the fallacy of two wrongs make a right -- anytime a progressive critcizes a conservative. It should be noted that it is a fallacy everytime he makes it. Of course, that might not be possible given the number of times he does it.</div><div><br></div><div>Third, the point you make at the end is exactly right. Either they are both wrong or they are not. I have no problem saying that the Obama sign folk (it seems that there is only one guy we're talking about here) is wrong. It is wrong for anyone to threaten to kill someone, just as it is wrong to make fun of someone's tumor two days after he died from it. Life is sacred. Of course you're not going to hear any admission of this from Crabtree, who doesn't seem to think that this sort of thing is wrong, as he made clear.</div><div><br></div><div>Fourth, as you also note there is a huge difference in the two cases since in one case the insulting comment came from the stage, from an actual Republican candidate. As you note, candidates have little control over what kinds of signs folks hold at their gatherings. But they do have control over what they say.</div><div><br></div><div>Lastly, it is nice to know that several Republicans in the state were outraged by the comment, too, and have publically condemned it. </div><div><br></div><div>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br></div><div></div></body></html>