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<font size="+1"><font face="Comic Sans MS">Ted . . .<br>
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How "way cool" to have been introduced to Senator and Mrs. Church!<br>
<br>
Also, a lesson in civility there.<br>
<br>
Thanks for sharing the story.<br>
<br>
Maybe UI needs to go "Back to the Future" re dining services.<br>
<br>
You write as if an extra measure of goodness was being offered<br>
by UI dining services in comparison to today's "private sector",<br>
"for profit", contracted services.<br>
<br>
Why do I get so frustrated over the battles about whether "services" <br>
[of many kinds] should be run by "government" versus those in "private <br>
enterprise"?<br>
<br>
MoscowSam<br>
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Ted Moffett wrote:
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<div>The Deakin St. Student Union Building cafeteria, which was used
often for more than just eating, but for studying and socializing, was
open to serve meals and be a community center till 1-2 AM, at least on
Friday and Saturday night, during the later 1960s early 1970s. I'm
certain of this because I worked there during those years. On Fri. and
Sat. nights during those years the place would often be buzzing with
activity till late. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>I agree the current Commons does not offer this kind of
environment for students to gather away from dorms, apartments,
library, athletic facilities, or bars and commercial restaurants, and
the Commons' hours limit its availability, of course. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>The Student Union Cafeteria at this time was state run, not
filled with commercial fast food outlets, just as the university dining
services for the dorms, which were later outsourced to the private
sector. Generous meals were offered for a very good price... </div>
<div> </div>
<div>The Student Union Cafeteria and associated food services at this
time were more sophisticated than you might think, serving advanced
cuisine to large formal banquets, with VIPs sometimes in attendance, at
numerous tables in the Student Union "ballroom," I think they called it
then. This required a rather large staff of cooks, waiters, kitchen
helpers, set-up and clean up crews, etc. We dressed up in fancy
waiters apparel, supplied by the Student Union Building food services,
for the whole routine of serving meals from appetizer to desert,
beverages , etc. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Once I waited on a table seating US Senator Frank Church and his
wife, and was graciously in person introduced by name to both of them,
at their request...</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Ted Moffett<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Kenneth
Marcy <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:kmmos1@verizon.net">kmmos1@verizon.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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But students have lost a comfortable place to have a cup of coffee, to<br>
socialize, and to study that is away from their primary residence
location or<br>
the library (which isn't supposed to be for socializing, anyway). In
other<br>
words, the students have lost the Student Union Building, which is now
an<br>
administrative complex. Yes, I know about the Commons, that add-on to
the<br>
eastern side of the University Classroom Center that has all of the
ambiance<br>
of a jet airliner repair and refurbishment hanger, without the resident
jets.<br>
Since the food vendors seem to be able, effectively, to shut down the
place<br>
when their cash flows dwindle, the general purpose, high-ceiling barn
portion<br>
of the facility is of limited use as an escape from dorms and
cafeterias.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> I also think it is easier to create a community among students if
there is<br>
> some proximity and some gentle help available (through residence
hall<br>
> advisers and even in-house faculty who sometimes live in residence
halls at<br>
> some institutions.<br>
<br>
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I think you're correct in this assessment. However, I do feel the
experience<br>
could be even better with more flexible space available on-campus for<br>
non-classroom, non-dining activities that are not of a gymnastic or
athletic<br>
nature. Some sort of combination of spaces representing a community
living<br>
rooms, community dens, and community meeting spaces not "owned"<br>
or "controlled" by one living group or another, or the
"administration," it<br>
seems to me, would be a valuable addition to encourage a variety of<br>
activities not necessarily affiliated with a particular residence
group. In<br>
other words, it would be nice to have a New Student Union back for
students.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
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