<div>Interesting that the Beatles would do a song that might be considered "grunge," "Helter Skelter," from the 1968 album simple titled "The Beatles" (the "White" album), yet for some of the Beatles' (or the members solo albums) songs that it seems could be more hard edged (like Lennon's "Gimme Some Truth"), given the theme, they did not do them with the hard frenzied distorted sound of "Helter Skelter." Two versions of "Revolution" were done though, one with more distortion and a more hard edge, the other almost at a sleepy tempo... Forget the slow one, unless needing a soporific...</div>
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<div>However, John Lennon's screaming on his first solo album (Plastic Ono Band), with influence from Janov's primal scream therapy, was no holds barred raw emotion in music:</div>
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<p><cite>Plastic Ono Band</cite> was nick-named "the Primal Album," as John had composed most of it during the course of four months at Arthur Janov's Primal Institute in Los Angeles. Lennon was initiated into Dr. Janov's radical therapy by the latter's <cite>The Primal Scream,</cite> which had been sent to him at the author's request. After undergoing three weeks of intensive therapy with Dr. Janov in England, the Lennons agreed to come to California in April 1970 for the full treatment, in which patients relive key experiences that trigger blood-curdling Primal Screams which, the psychologist contends, can exorcize the root causes of all their neuroses.
<p>The therapy's profound impact on Lennon is clearly reflected in his album. A harrowing journey through John's past, <cite>Plastic Ono Band</cite> leaves the bare wires of his ravaged emotions exposed as never before or since. Songs like John's self-proclaimed revolutionary anthem, "Working Class Hero" -- whose melody and solitary droning acoustic guitar recall the angry young Dylan of almost a decade earlier -- closely echo Dr. Janov's theories. "Well Well Well" and the "Mama don't go, Daddy come home" segment of "Mother" climax with screams; whether or not these are Primal with a capital P, they are certainly chilling. </p>
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<div>Vision2020 Post: Ted Moffett<br> </div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/13/09, <b class="gmail_sendername">TIM RIGSBY</b> <<a href="mailto:tim.rigsby@hotmail.com">tim.rigsby@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</span>
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<div>I like Eddie Vedder's version better, it seems to be more relevant, at least in 2004 anyway, to me and my generation. Plus I saw him perform it live.<br><br><a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0azqzN-rNE&feature=related" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0azqzN-rNE&feature=related</a><br>
<br>" 'Politics is the art of controlling your environment.' That is one of the key things I learned in these years, and I learned it the hard way. Anybody who thinks that 'it doesn't matter who's President' has never been Drafted and sent off to fight and die in a vicious, stupid War on the other side of the World -- or been beaten and gassed by Police for trespassing on public property -- or been hounded by the IRS for purely political reasons -- or locked up in the Cook County Jail with a broken nose and no phone access and twelve perverts wanting to stomp your ass in the shower. That is when it matters who is President or Governor or Police Chief. That is when you will wish you had voted." - Hunter S. Thompson<br>
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:25:24 -0700<br>From: <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com" target="_blank">starbliss@gmail.com</a><br>To: <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com" target="_blank">kjajmix1@msn.com</a><span class="q"><br>
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</span>Subject: [Vision2020] "I've had enough of reading things by neurotic, psychotic, pig-headed politicians"
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<div>Definitely not a "treacly nod to general warm-fuzzy-happy-place sentiments" is the song below by John Lennon, one of my favorite songs by anyone:</div>
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<div>From "Imagine" by John Lennon</div>
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<div>Gimme Some Truth</div>
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<div>I'm sick and tired of hearing things<br>From uptight, short-sighted, narrow-minded hypocrites<br>All I want is the truth<br>Just gimme some truth <br><br>I've had enough of reading things<br>By neurotic, psychotic, pig-headed politicians<br>
All I want is the truth<br>Just gimme some truth <br><br>No short-haired, yellow-bellied, son of Tricky Dicky<br>Is gonna mother hubbard soft soap me<br>With just a pocketful of hope<br>Money for dope<br>Money for rope <br>
<br>I'm sick to death of seeing things<br>From tight-lipped, condescending, mama's little chauvinists<br>All I want is the truth<br>Just gimme some truth now <br><br>I've had enough of watching scenes<br>Of schizophrenic, ego-centric, paranoiac, prima-donnas<br>
All I want is the truth now<br>Just gimme some truth <br><br>No short-haired, yellow-bellied, son of Tricky Dicky<br>Is gonna mother hubbard soft soap me<br>With just a pocketful of hope<br>It's money for dope<br>Money for rope <br>
<br>Ah, I'm sick to death of hearing things<br>from uptight, short-sighted, narrow-minded hypocrites<br>All I want is the truth now<br>Just gimme some truth now <br><br>I've had enough of reading things<br>by neurotic, psychotic, pig-headed politicians<br>
All I want is the truth now<br>Just gimme some truth now <br><br>All I want is the truth now<br>Just gimme some truth now<br>All I want is the truth<br>Just gimme some truth<br>All I want is the truth<br>Just gimme some truth<br>
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<div>Vision2020 Post: Ted Moffett<br> </div>
<div>On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 11:48 AM, keely emerinemix <span dir="ltr"><<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com" target="_blank">kjajmix1@msn.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Back to the original "most culturally significant pop song," I'd have to disagree with Kai and then risk the ire of many of my friends. I'm afraid the song "Imagine," by Beatle John Lennon, has taken on anthem-like status for everybody in the world who disdains, say, kicking cats. What used to be a profound song in the eyes of listeners 30 years ago has now become a treacly nod to general warm-fuzzy-happy-place sentiments.<br>
<br>Did you guess that I don't like the song at all, never did, but nonetheless recognize that it's evolved into a force even greater than "Don't Stop Believin'," although I think Steven Perry IS really cute . . . <br>
<br>Keely<br><a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/</a><br><br><br><br><br>> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:29:32 -0700<br>
> From: <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a><br>> To: <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:london@moscow.com" target="_blank">london@moscow.com</a><br>
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<div><br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The most pop-culturally significant song of all time ever in the history of universe (Hint: It ain't by the bug boys from Liverpool)<br>> <br>> Excellent.<br>> <br>> Thanks, Bill.<br>
> <br>> Tom<br>> <br>> > Lotus, acapella three women, nice sound<br>> > BL<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > ----- Original Message -----<br>> > From: "Tom Hansen" <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a>><br>
> > To: "Darrell Keim" <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:keim153@gmail.com" target="_blank">keim153@gmail.com</a>><br>> > Cc: <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a>>; "Kai Eiselein" <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com" target="_blank">fotopro63@hotmail.com</a>><br>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 5:52 AM<br>> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The most pop-culturally significant song of all<br>> > time ever in the history of universe (Hint: It ain't by the bug boys from<br>
> > Liverpool)<br>> ><br>> ><br>> >> Speaking of old songs . . .<br>> >><br>> >> Here is a song, titled "Sparkling Gold", recorded at Hal Logan Music in<br>> >> 1993 right here in Moscow, Idaho, performed by a local group.<br>
> >><br>> >> Question: What is the name of this group?<br>> >><br>> >> <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.tomandrodna.com/Songs/Sparkling_Gold.mp3" target="_blank">http://www.tomandrodna.com/Songs/Sparkling_Gold.mp3</a><br>
> >><br>> >> Seeya at Palouse Pride, Moscow.<br>> >><br>> >> Tom Hansen<br>> >> Moscow, Idaho<br>> >><br>> >> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to<br>
> >> change<br>> >> and the Realist adjusts his sails."<br>> >><br>> >> - Unknown<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> =======================================================<br>
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