<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Sunil,<div><br></div><div>I agree with you. And let's not forget, and the tape released by the police proves this, HE WAS IN HIS OWN HOME at the time. </div><div>I do not think that Sgt Crowley was or is a racist, but he was in Prof Gates home at the time and kept trying to get him outside.</div><div>have we sunk to such a depth that the police can knock on your door and PROVE that you live there or force you outside,</div><div>which I have to believe was get him out of his home to arrest him?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Jul 29, 2009, at 8:45 AM, Sunil Ramalingam wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div class="hmmessage" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana; ">In America, when did behaving stupidly (to use your description, with which I disagree) become an arrestable offense?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>Once the cop knew that he was no longer investigating a burglary, it was time to leave. Period.<br><br>Sunil<br><br>> From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">jampot@roadrunner.com</a><br>> To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</a><br>> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 07:25:55 -0700<br>> CC:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> I failed to note it because I'm fairly sure that it didn't happen. Please<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> provide a link to BHO's apology to either Sgt. Crowley or the Cambridge P.D.<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Having actually read the police report, it's clear that had Gates simply and<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> calmly shown his I.D. the officer would have left. It was Gates who<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> continued to aggressively engage Sgt Crowley with demands and threats. Was<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Gates' arrest required? Probably not but, there is no question but what the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> professor was the one that was behaving stupidly.<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> g<br>> ----- Original Message -----<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> From: "Joe Campbell" <<a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</a>><br>> To: "g. crabtree" <<a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">jampot@roadrunner.com</a>><br>> Cc: "Tom Hansen" <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>>; "Moscow Vision 2020"<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> <<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>><br>> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 6:41 AM<br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > If someone came to your house thinking you broke in and you showed him ID<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > proving you lived there and he didn't leave immediately, I'd say he acted<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > stupidly -- even if you took the race elements out of it. As it turns<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > out, Obama even said he was sorry, which of course you failed to note.<br>> ><br>> > Not that any of this will convince you.<br>> ><br>> > Sent from my iPhone<br>> ><br>> > On Jul 29, 2009, at 9:12 AM, "g. crabtree" <<a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">jampot@roadrunner.com</a>> wrote:<br>> ><br>> >> I'm not so sure that I'd go so far as to brand the POTUS a racist as<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> >> it's a<br>> >> term that gets thrown around a little to casually, in my opinion. I<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> >> would,<br>> >> however, like to know how you explain his standing in front of the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> >> nation<br>> >> and stating up front that he doesn't know the whole story with regard to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> >> his<br>> >> pal Henry Gates and Cambridge police sergeant James Crowley and yet went<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> >> so<br>> >> far as to characterize law enforcements actions as "behaving stupidly?"<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> >> How<br>> >> many other decisions does the man reach without being fully informed?<br>> >> Judging from other remarks I've heard him make I'd venture to say Cap<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> >> and<br>> >> Trade and National Health Care might fall squarely into that same<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> >> category.<br>> >><br>> >> g<br>> >> ----- Original Message -----<br>> >> From: "Tom Hansen" <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>><br>> >> To: "Moscow Vision 2020" <<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>><br>> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 5:41 AM<br>> >> Subject: [Vision2020] Say What?<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >>> "This president, I think, has exposed himself as a guy, over and over<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> >>> and<br>> >>> over again, who has a deep-seated hatred for white people or the white<br>> >>> culture, I don't know what it is. I'm not saying that he doesn't like<br>> >>> white people. I'm saying he has a problem. This guy is, I believe, a<br>> >>> racist.''<br>> >>><br>> >>> - Glenn Beck on President Obama (July 28, 2009)<br>> >>><br>> >>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIZDnpPafaA">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIZDnpPafaA</a><br>> >>><br>> >>> -----------------------------------------------<br>> >>><br>> >>> Seeya round town, Moscow.<br>> >>><br>> >>> Tom Hansen<br>> >>> Moscow, Idaho<br>> >>><br>> >>> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> >>> change<br>> >>> and the Realist adjusts his sails."<br>> >>><br>> >>> - Unknown<br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>> =======================================================<br>> >>> List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>> >>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br>> >>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.fsr.net">http://www.fsr.net</a><br>> >>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>> >>> =======================================================<br>> >>><br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> =======================================================<br>> >> List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>> >> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br>> >><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.fsr.net">http://www.fsr.net</a><br>> >><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>> >> =======================================================<br>> ><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> =======================================================<br>> List services made available by First Step Internet,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.fsr.net">http://www.fsr.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>> =======================================================<br>=======================================================<br>List services made available by First Step Internet,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <br> <a href="http://www.fsr.net">http://www.fsr.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span> <br> <a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>=======================================================</div></span></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>