<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Your standards for proof are convienient. That was my point.<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Jul 26, 2009, at 9:59 AM, "g. crabtree" <<a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">jampot@roadrunner.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">The mayor and Weber made their positions on the ban
abundantly clear and as a result there is precious little chance I'll vote for
either.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">You explicitly say you wouldn't have voted for this
law were you on the council (a nightmare scenario) and you waste no opportunity
to defend it.</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I have said several times in the past few days that
I am extremely disappointed</font> <font face="Arial" size="2">with the actions
of ALL the people who I supported who came down in favor of this over reaching
regulation but, don't try and kid anyone into believing that their opponents
would have voted any differently if Lamar's vote and the mayors comments are
anything to go by. Since you feel I must accept some level of "blame" in the
matter, so be it. I am guilty of believing the nonsense the candidates presented
with regard to being in favor of small government and being pro-business and in
favor of private property rights. Now, what's your responsibility for supporting
the two liberal leftovers who were side by side, cheek and
jowl with the people I am taking to task?</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I really have no idea where Larry Craig fits into
this discussion but, What I have ACTUALLY said on the topic was that the former
senator may or may not be gay and that the only proof positive would be for him
to make a statement of some kind. Pleading guilty to a misdemeanor charge of
disorderly conduct isn't the damning evidence foe homosexuality you seem to
think it is.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">g</font></div>
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<a title="philosopher.joe@gmail.com" href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">Joe
Campbell</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="jampot@roadrunner.com" href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">g. crabtree</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="cjsnightclub@cableone.net" href="mailto:cjsnightclub@cableone.net">Shelley Roderick</a> ; <a title="bear@moscow.com" href="mailto:bear@moscow.com">Wayne Price</a> ; <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com>"><<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>></a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 25, 2009 10:12
PM</div>
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<div>Gary,</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>You are a funny man! </div>
<div><br></div>
<div>The mayor is accountable, even though she didn't vote, which leaves it
open for you to vote for Weber, who did vote in favor of the smoking ban. I've
explicitly said that I wouldn't have voted for this law were I on the council,
and I'm not on the council and have no intention of ever running, yet there is
a pox on my house. (You keep confusing my criticism of some arguments against
the ban with my being in favor of it.) Five folks that you supported voted for
the ban, yet you don't accept any blame for that result and you've only
publically blamed one of them (who happens not to be up for re-election this
fall). And all the while you think that Larry Craig is not gay, though he was
caught trying to pick up a police officer in a known gay pick-up joint (it was
a sting operation, run due to complaints from the public) and pled guilty to
the charge.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>How wonderful it is that your beliefs remain regardless of the reasons
for or against them! <br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div><br>On Jul 25, 2009, at 8:35 PM, "g. crabtree" <<a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"><a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">jampot@roadrunner.com</a></a>>
wrote:<br><br></div>
<div><span></span></div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">You're right in that the people I
supported turned out to be worthless when it came to this issue, a mistake I
won't likely make again. Of course your Mayor and the residual lib member
went with the ban as a matter of course. That I expected. You have
been cheerleading the decision since its passage. A pox on all three
houses.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">g</font></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><b>From:</b>
<a title="philosopher.joe@gmail.com" href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">Joe Campbell</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="jampot@roadrunner.com" href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">g. crabtree</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="cjsnightclub@cableone.net" href="mailto:cjsnightclub@cableone.net">Shelley Roderick</a> ; <a title="bear@moscow.com" href="mailto:bear@moscow.com">Wayne Price</a> ; <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com>"><</a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a>>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 25, 2009 5:15
PM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020]
Choices</div>
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<div>Crabtree,</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>I had nothing to do with the smoking ban, which would have easily
passed given the support of the five men you voted into office over the
last two elections alone. I worked my ass off to try to prevent your guys
from getting elected ... but it's still my fault! Nonetheless you'll find
a way to forget the facts again come November! All I can say is, You got
what you voted for!</div>
<div><br>Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div><br>On Jul 25, 2009, at 7:53 PM, "g. crabtree" <<a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"></a><a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"><a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">jampot@roadrunner.com</a></a>>
wrote:<br><br></div>
<div><span></span></div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>
<div><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #f3eded" color="#000000" size="2">Actually, the person you should be asking is Wayne. Near as I can
make it the only legal public place a person might be able to smoke
would be the middle of a parking lot and I'm sure that will only be a
temporary condition. Campbell and The council will want to protect
parked cars from second hand smoke as soon as they're made aware of the
problem.</font></div>
<div><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #f3eded" color="#000000" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #f3eded" color="#000000" size="2">g</font></div>
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<div style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><b>From:</b>
<a title="cjsnightclub@cableone.net" href="mailto:cjsnightclub@cableone.net">Shelley Roderick</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="bear@moscow.com" href="mailto:bear@moscow.com">Wayne Price</a> ; <a title="philosopher.joe@gmail.com" href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">Joe Campbell</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 25, 2009
2:49 PM</div>
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Choices</div>
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<div>Gary says, "If I'm in an area where I can legally
smoke............................."</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Gary - where might that be in a public place?</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Phil</div>
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<div dir="ltr" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><i><b>From:</b></i> <a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">Joe Campbell</a></div>
<div dir="ltr" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><i><b>Date:</b></i>
7/25/2009 2:30:31 PM</div>
<div dir="ltr" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><i><b>To:</b></i> <a href="mailto:bear@moscow.com">Wayne Price</a></div>
<div dir="ltr" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><i><b>Cc:</b></i> <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a></div>
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[Vision2020] Choices</div></div>
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<div>Subjecting children to secondhand smoke! That ought to
teach them!</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>And it is hard to see how I changed the topic since the
first post in this thread is from Gary and on abortion. But
don't let the facts get in the way! That's what Fox is
for! </div>
<div><br>Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div><br>On Jul 25, 2009, at 4:29 PM, Wayne Price <<a href="mailto:bear@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:bear@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:bear@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:bear@moscow.com">bear@moscow.com</a></a>>
wrote:<br><br></div>
<div><span></span></div>
<div type="cite">
<div>Gary,
<div><br></div>
<div>THANKS for bringing this back to the original problem, the
smoking ban!</div>
<div>I agree 100% and think you summed up the problem of the
smoking topic right on the point!</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>I used to be very aware of non-smokers when I lit a
cigarette and I would ask if it bothered them, and if it
did, I would observe usual social conventions and either not
light up,</div>
<div>or move so that they could enjoy what ever they were doing
without my smoke bothering them. NOT any more after the 3rd of
August ! Now, If I'm in an area where I can legally smoke,</div>
<div> I'm lighting up, and if the non-smokers don't like
it, they can head to a bar or private club where they don't have
to put up with second hand smoke!</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>And in all seriousness, take a look at where twenty feet
from the door of West of Paris is, in relationship to twenty
feet from the door of the Garden. Puts me right in the middle of
the kiddy equipment,</div>
<div>Oh well, THATS what the non-smokers wanted, THATS what they
get!</div>
<div><br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Wayne</div>
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<div>On Jul 25, 2009, at 1:12 PM, g. crabtree wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Surprisingly, considering your
short attention span, you have brought this back around to the
original topic which was the smoking ban and in that here are
the similarities I see.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">A private citizen owns a business.
It is open to all, be they patrons or employees. The only
stipulation being you must be willing to put up with the bar's
environment. A small group of people want to partake of the
private citizens private property but they do not want to
endure the rules of use so, rather than take advantage of
already existing venues that already meet their criterion, or
create a new venue of their own that would
fulfill their needs, they use the sledgehammer of
government to force the private property owner and all of his
clients who are perfectly happy with the current arraignment to
accede to their wishes.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Now, an institution exists called
marriage. It may not be a perfect institution but it has served
its purpose relatively well for may years. It is open to all,
the only stipulation is that its an arraignment set up
solely for a man and a woman. A small group of people want to
partake of this arraignment but they do not want to have to
follow the rules that are set up for it. So, rather than
utilizing an existing framework to obtain their goals
(legal documents such as wills, living wills, medical powers of
atty, etc.) or set up a new institution that will fulfill their
desires (domestic partnership), they attempt to use the
sledgehammer of the state to force their desires onto the
majority.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">In the first example, you claim
that government and the small, vocal group interested in
changing the status quo were doing a good thing "in the name of
public health," even though the only people affected were those
who voluntarily entered the privately owned premises and that
the hazard did not extend beyond the walls to anyone who didn't
choose to be there.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">In the second example, you claim
that a small, vocal group attempting to use the power of
government to alter the status quo is a good thing
because.......??</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">g</font></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(228,228,228); -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial"><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="philosopher.joe@gmail.com" href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">Joe Campbell</a></div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="jampot@roadrunner.com" href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">g. crabtree</a></div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="lockshop@pull.twcbc.com" href="mailto:lockshop@pull.twcbc.com">the lockshop</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com>"><</a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a>></div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, July 24, 2009
9:24 PM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Vision2020]
Choices</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>You make it seem as if marriage is no big deal and not any
different than any old legal contract but if that is the case it
is not clear why you got married in the first place or why you
would give a damn if two men married each other. Can you explain
that? If there is no difference why not just let anyone marry
whom ever they wish? Again, it is a strange view of freedom that
desires to keep folks from doing what they want even when, if
we're to believe your words below, you "don't care." Very
strange indeed!</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Again, compare your thoughts on this matter with your views
on the new anti-smoking law. Dan doesn't like smokey bars and as
I noted there is lots of evidence that second hand is physically
harmful but you still called Dan "selfish" (I think that was the
word) for casting his vote. But somehow the fact that you don't
have a fondness for other guys and have unsupported fantasies
about the connection between gay marriage and "moral harms" that
is a different story. Even though marriage is no big deal it is
not wrong or selfish for you to do what you can to prevent gay
weddings. (I'm assuming that you voted for the constitutional
ban on gay marriage but if I'm wrong let me know.) </div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Putting it all together, we're supposed to believe that
when the local government bans smoking in the name of public
health that we're one step closer to communism BUT the state is
allowed to say who you can and can't marry. Very strange
view!</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Say what you want but you are no fan of freedom -- unless
by that you mean the freedom to do what you see fit. And yes I
will bring this up whenever you or your radical conservative
friends wave your flags and try to pretend that you think
freedom is important. <br><br>Sent from my
iPhone</div>
<div><br>On Jul 24, 2009, at 9:29 PM, "g. crabtree" <<a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"></a><a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"></a><a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"></a><a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"><a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">jampot@roadrunner.com</a></a>>
wrote:<br><br></div>
<div><span></span></div>
<div type="cite">
<div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">If you had read my post a little
more carefully you might have noted that I did not ask anyone to
explain why their actions are not harmful to society. I have to
justify nothing to anyone, much less you and neither does Moe.
I have been asked for, and given explanation for my views
on this and numerous other topics on this forum frequently over
the years, that I should ask someone else for the same is
arrogance? When it comes to inconsistency (to say nothing
of belligerence) I can't hold a candle to you.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Just for the sake of mindless
repetition, I have said repeatedly that I don't care if
homosexuals run out and have some sort of a little ceremony and
call themselves whatever they like. They can go to an attorney,
in the same way that my wife and I did, and have drawn up the
same wills, durable powers of attorney, living wills, revocable
living trusts, etc. that will in effect give them all the same
rights and privileges that my wife and I enjoy and I'm fine with
it. They in effect already have everything they claim they
want. And yet it's not enough, my simple and apparently
"arrogant" question is why? I don't wish Moe and her pal any ill
or unhappiness, I just want to know why they require me
via the power of the state to play along before their lives are
complete. I don't think that this is an unreasonable question to
ask.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">g</font></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="lockshop@pull.twcbc.com" href="mailto:lockshop@pull.twcbc.com">the lockshop</a></div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a></div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, July 24, 2009
5:02 PM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Vision2020]
Choices</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>I'll have more to say about this later since I'm about to
drive home BUT can YOU explain why any of your actions are not
harmful to society? Do you think you have to justify them to me
before you're allowed to do anything? And is there something
besides your own arragance that makes you think folks owe you an
explanation? </div>
<div><br></div>
<div>It seems strange to me that you could rip Dan a new one for
infringing on the "rights" for smokers, even though second hand
smoke has been proven to be harmful, yet you seem to believe
that folks may only marry if they prove to you that it is not
harmful! </div>
<div><br></div>
<div>There is no better argument for the claim that personal
religious beliefs have no place when it comes to matters of the
law than you have illustrated with this recent pair of
inconsistent reasonings!<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div><br>On Jul 24, 2009, at 6:26 PM, "the lockshop" <<a href="mailto:lockshop@pull.twcbc.com"></a><a href="mailto:lockshop@pull.twcbc.com"></a><a href="mailto:lockshop@pull.twcbc.com"></a><a href="mailto:lockshop@pull.twcbc.com"></a><a href="mailto:lockshop@pull.twcbc.com"><a href="mailto:lockshop@pull.twcbc.com">lockshop@pull.twcbc.com</a></a>>
wrote:<br><br></div>
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<div><font face="Arial">Since I've done that one before Mo, why
not just for fun try a different approach. Why don't you explain
to me all the myriad ways in which you being able to marry
your partner is a benefit to me and/or society? Explain how it
will be good for children (mine or yours, assuming you have
any), how it will strenghten families, and how it won't cause
large problems with regard to an already tottering social
security system. Lay out how it won't set the stage for
polygamous and polyandrous unions with all the inherent problems
that will bring. Perhaps, if nothing else, explain to me what
the major tangible benefits of it would even be for you and
your partner.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">All the things that you claim you long for
can be achieved by other legal means. It is my understanding
that most states allow pretty much all accomadation to
homosexual couples as they do hetro except the title, why so
adamant in your insistance for a change to the status
quo?</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
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Hendrickson</a></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a></div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, July 24, 2009
1:11 PM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Vision2020]
Choices</div>
<div><br></div>One question Gary. I am hoping you can
clarify this point for me...<br><br>How would my desire to marry
my partner adversely affect you?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>Your marriage,
I am making an assumption that you are married, has no effect on
me, so why would mine have any bearing on you? Why do you
advocate for denying me and my partner a legally recognized
marriage? <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>Not that I
expect an answer but I thought I would put it out there. I
guess anybody who is opposed to same gender marriage could
answer this question. And so we don't head down the
ridiculous path of marrying goats, I am defining same gender
marriage as two consenting adults. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>-Mo<br><br><br>
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From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:lockshop@pull.twcbc.com"></a><a href="mailto:lockshop@pull.twcbc.com"></a><a href="mailto:lockshop@pull.twcbc.com"></a><a href="mailto:lockshop@pull.twcbc.com"></a><a href="mailto:lockshop@pull.twcbc.com"></a><a href="mailto:lockshop@pull.twcbc.com"><a href="mailto:lockshop@pull.twcbc.com">lockshop@pull.twcbc.com</a></a><br>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com"><a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</a></a><br>Date:
Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:41:22 -0700<br>CC:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a><br>Subject:
Re: [Vision2020] "Please do not continue to confuse people with
facts."<br><br>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Another inconsequential
argument. No valid marriages are being rendered "null and void"
and I'm not suggesting that any be made so. I think that my
views are quite consistant. I'm in favor of choice when the
choice doesn't adversely affect others who have no way of
escaping my decision.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">What strikes me as strange is your
notion that your personally concocted
idea of freedoms should be celebrated and allowed to
impact any and everyone with no regard for adverse
impact.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">g</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="lockshop@pull.twcbc.com">the lockshop</a></div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="tim.rigsby@hotmail.com">TIM RIGSBY</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="starbliss@gmail.com"><</a><a href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com"><a href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com">starbliss@gmail.com</a></a>>
;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="vision2020@moscow.com"><</a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a>></div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, July 24, 2009
11:43 AM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Vision2020]
"Please do not continue to confuse people with facts."</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>So you think that the state should not be forced to
recognize marriage? If they were to say that conservatives with
inconsistent views were not allowed to marry, and thus your
marriage was null and void, that would be fine with you? Yipes!
As I said, this is a strange kind of freedom!</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>And I'm not putting words in your mouth. I'm just pointing
out the implications of your own words.<br><br>Sent from my
iPhone</div>
<div><br>On Jul 24, 2009, at 1:55 PM, "the lockshop"
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wrote:<br><br></div>
<div></div>
<div>
<div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Is mis-stating my position really
the only way you can think of to try and make a valid
point?</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">As I have said repeatedly, I
believe that if homosexuals can find someone who is willing to
pronounce them man and man, wife and wife, or man, wife, wife,
or any permutation thereof then swell, I wish them the
best. What I am not in favor of is in my or the state being
forced to recognize it.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">With regard to the abortion
issue though I've really got to admit that you've got me caught
on the horns of a delimma. How could I not see the
similarity between making a choice that has a 1 in 15 chance of
potentially damaging the health of the person doing
the choosing and making a decision that has a
100% chance of killing an innocent party?</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">In both of your examples the
decision extends to others who will not be given a choice to
participate. Bar patrons and employess do get to make an
informed choice and as a result your comments seem a trifle
lame.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="lockshop@pull.twcbc.com">the lockshop</a></div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="tim.rigsby@hotmail.com">TIM RIGSBY</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="starbliss@gmail.com"><</a><a></a><a href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com"><a href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com">starbliss@gmail.com</a></a>>
;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="vision2020@moscow.com"><</a><a></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a>></div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, July 24, 2009
9:29 AM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Vision2020]
"Please do not continue to confuse people with facts."</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>You don't even think that ADULTS are able to make decisions
about whom to marry or whether pr not to have children, so stop
pretending to respect a person's right to make decisions for him
or herself! <br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div><br>On Jul 24, 2009, at 12:11 PM, "the lockshop"
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wrote:<br><br></div>
<div></div>
<div>
<div>
<div><font face="Arial">It would seem that you, Mr. Moffet, and
our city council have a mighty low opinion of the intelligence
of the patrons and employees of bars and taverns. I can't speak
for your students but, I find it very difficult to believe that
by the time a citizen reaches the age of 21 in the United
States he hasn't heard the anti-smoking mantra to the point
of nausea.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">How lucky we are that there are people out
there who will take it upon themselves to prevent emancipated
Americans from making their own decisions with regard to the
risks they take in life.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="starbliss@gmail.com"></a><a></a><a></a><a href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com"><a href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com">starbliss@gmail.com</a></a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a></a><a></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a></div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, July 24, 2009
7:47 AM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Vision2020]
"Please do not continue to confuse people with facts."</div>
<div><br></div>I would like to add the idea of this
saying,<br><br>"Don't let the facts get in the way of a good
story."<br><br>Either way Ted, you brought up some very valid
points that tend to be forgotten when people discuss
tobacco/smoking regulation and legislation. What scares me
as a Health Teacher is when I hear my junior high and high
school aged students talking about how safe, they think anyway,
Hookah bars are. When asked if they would ever smoke
cigarettes, they claim that they won't. Yet what these
students don't realize is that they are actually smoking tobacco
at the high school hookah parties. What is even scarier is
a lot of the parents think that hookah is a safe alternative as
well. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>The hookah bar
closest to my house in Boise is constantly packed with young
people all of the time. Often times, other substances are
being laced into the tobacco as well and these young people are
unknowingly smoking illegal drugs along with their fruit and
tobacco mixture.<br><br>I predict in the not so distant future,
Boise and possibly the State Legislature will enact legislation
to regulate/control these hookah establishments.<br><br>Here is
a question to ponder. By definition based on Idaho Code,
what is a hookah bar categorized as? A restaurant, a bar,
a private club? If it falls under the bar definition, then
people under 21 should not be allowed in. It seems as
though hookah bars would fall into an undefined gray area of the
Idaho Clean Indoor Air Act. However, Moscow seems to have
covered hookah bars in their recent ban of smoking, I could be
wrong though.<br><br>" 'Politics is the art of controlling your
environment.' That is one of the key things I learned in these
years, and I learned it the hard way. Anybody who thinks that
'it doesn't matter who's President' has never been Drafted and
sent off to fight and die in a vicious, stupid War on the other
side of the World -- or been beaten and gassed by Police for
trespassing on public property -- or been hounded by the IRS for
purely political reasons -- or locked up in the Cook County Jail
with a broken nose and no phone access and twelve perverts
wanting to stomp your ass in the shower. That is when it matters
who is President or Governor or Police Chief. That is when you
will wish you had voted." - Hunter S.
Thompson<br><br><br><br><br>
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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:39:45 -0700<br>From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a></a><a></a><a></a><a href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com"><a href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com">starbliss@gmail.com</a></a><br>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a></a><a></a><a></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a><br>Subject:
[Vision2020] "Please do not continue to confuse people with
facts."<br><br>
<div>The "Off List" response referenced, from someone I regard
as one of the most educated and honest Vision2020 participants,
that I received to my post below on tobacco regulation, is
in total what is stated in the subject heading of this
post. Wise words, no doubt, that I ignore at my own
risk...</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Notice there is limited or no discussion of some of the
critical facts my post presented: that tobacco
(nicotine) is a physically addictive drug, with
underage tobacco addiction common, raising questions if whether
adult "choice" is in effect regarding employees or consumers in
tobacco related decisions; that tobacco is the leading
cause of premature death (nuclear waste or energy or even
nuclear weapons production is not even close as a cause of
premature death); that other drugs doing less harm to society
than tobacco are criminalized and prosecuted
aggressively, involving civil and human rights violations,
yet who among those opposing regulation of
tobacco, will as aggressively advocate for these drugs
to be managed by free choice and the marketplace, rather than a
government "Big Brother?" Some, perhaps... While there are
others who should know better playing some on this list as
fools, for the sake of debate, or political advantage, or
popular image or whatever... Or they are as deluded as those
they are debating with...</div>
<div> </div>
<div>My response to the "Off List" comment discussed
here:</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Ummm... OK, I guess... However, being an idealist in belief
that expressing the truth is morally mandated (where did I get
that dangerous idea? I''ll end up in serious
trouble! Oh, I forgot, I already am...), I may not
comply. I recently read a variation of this same
expression in James Lovelock's "Revenge of Gaia:" "Don't confuse
me with the facts, my minds made up." Lovelock was
referring to this mentality regarding the rejection of nuclear
power by many in the environmental movement.</div>
<div> </div><span class="EC_EC_sg">
<div>Ted<br> </div></span><span class="q" id="EC_EC_q_122aa783745cbaea_2">
<div>
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<div><font size="2">Please do not continue to confuse people with
facts. </font></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="vision2020@moscow.com">Moscow Vision 2020</a></div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, July 22,
2009 1:55 AM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Vision2020] Tobacco:
Targeting the Nation’s Leading Killer: Centers for Disease
Control</div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Tobacco (nicotine) is a physically addictive drug.
Once addicted, "choice" becomes a problematic concept. And
many people become addicted while underage, encouraged to
continue their addiction in bars, where cigarettes are
often shared between customers. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>The fact tobacco is physically addictive is absent from the
comments of many opposing the smoking ordinance, as are the
facts regarding the magnitude of the
damage. Comparisons to other harmful behaviors
are drawn (fatty food, etc.), suggesting that a slippery slope
of regulation will lead to government control over too many
aspects of life, but many of these behaviors do not involve
a drug addiction. Of course alcohol has dramatic negative
impacts. But workers in bars are not forced to drink the
drinks the customers order, as they breathe the smoke
of the customers. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>I find it incredible that the health of workers exposed to
an addictive drug when they breathe in the workplace is
approached so callously. They can work elsewhere, it's
announced with smug authority, as if in this economy workers
have the luxury of choosing whatever job suits their fancy,
rather than an urgency to take whatever work they can
find. If it was cocaine or heroin or methamphetamine that
workers were exposed to, the attitude might be
different. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Profits from exposing workers to addictive drugs in the
workplace should be protected based on free market, free choice,
adult responsibility? If this is the logic, where are the
protests against laws imposed on those selling
cocaine, heroin or methamphetamine, et. al., to consenting
adults, which can result in long prison sentences? Let the
free market decide! Why stand in the way of
profits and the free choice of adults? </div>
<div> </div>
<div>If those opposing the smoking ordinance were consistent in
their outrage against limits on the free market, their ideology
might have more intellectual credibility. Instead, the
libertarianism proposed is inconsistent and conformist. Or
perhaps those opposed to the smoking ordinance will now protest
that bars do not allow legal cocaine, heroin or methamphetamine
use? Think of the profits to be made! And remember,
tobacco prematurely kills more people than those three drugs
combined...</div>
<div> </div>
<div>If attempts were made to criminalize tobacco like cannabis
is, resulting in prison sentences, home invasions, for sale or
use, I would oppose this vehemently. But an ordinance
regulating smoking in bars does not stop any adult from legally
using tobacco products in settings where they do not expose
workers.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>If worker freedom of choice was a valid argument to justify
the exposure of workers to tobacco smoke in bars, than OSHA
could be mostly eliminated. After all, if workers exposed
to hazards monitored or banned by OSHA don't want to work with
those risks, they can work elsewhere, as long as signs posted in
the workplace inform them of the risks. A "Big
Brother" government bureaucracy gone. </div>
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<div><a></a><a></a><a></a><a href="http://www.cdc.gov/NCCDPHP/publications/aag/osh.htm"></a><a href="http://www.cdc.gov/NCCDPHP/publications/aag/osh.htm"></a><a href="http://www.cdc.gov/NCCDPHP/publications/aag/osh.htm"></a><a href="http://www.cdc.gov/NCCDPHP/publications/aag/osh.htm"></a><a href="http://www.cdc.gov/NCCDPHP/publications/aag/osh.htm"><a href="http://www.cdc.gov/NCCDPHP/publications/aag/osh.htm">http://www.cdc.gov/NCCDPHP/publications/aag/osh.htm</a></a></div>
<div>
<h2>The Burden of Tobacco Use</h2>Tobacco use is the single most
preventable cause of disease, disability, and death in the
United States. Each year, an estimated 443,000 people die
prematurely from smoking or exposure to secondhand smoke, and
another 8.6 million have a serious illness caused by smoking.
For every person who dies from smoking, 20 more people suffer
from at least one serious tobacco-related illness. Despite these
risks, approximately 43.4 million U.S. adults smoke cigarettes.
Smokeless tobacco, cigars, and pipes also have deadly
consequences, including lung, larynx, esophageal, and oral
cancers.<br>The harmful effects of smoking do not end with the
smoker. More than 126 million nonsmoking Americans, including
children and adults, are regularly exposed to secondhand smoke.
Even brief exposure can be dangerous because nonsmokers inhale
many of the same carcinogens and toxins in cigarette smoke as
smokers. Secondhand smoke exposure causes serious disease and
death, including heart disease and lung cancer in nonsmoking
adults and sudden infant death syndrome, acute respiratory
infections, ear problems, and more frequent and severe asthma
attacks in children. Each year, primarily because of exposure to
secondhand smoke, an estimated 3,000 nonsmoking Americans die of
lung cancer, more than 46,000 (range: 22,700–69,600) die of
heart disease, and about 150,000–300,000 children younger than
18 months have lower respiratory tract infections.<br>Coupled
with this enormous health toll is the significant economic
burden of tobacco use—more than $96 billion per year in medical
expenditures and another $97 billion per year resulting from
lost productivity.<br>
<p align="center"><a name="122aa783745cbaea_122a2ac98d684f08_1"><img height="457" alt="Chart showing about 443,000 U.S. deaths attributable each year to cigarette smoking. Text description below." src="http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w3/ltr/i_safe.gif" width="425" border="0"></a></p>
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<h2>The Tobacco Use Epidemic Can Be Stopped</h2>A 2007 Institute
of Medicine (IOM) report presented a blueprint for action to
“reduce smoking so substantially that it is no longer a public
health problem for our nation.” The two-pronged strategy for
achieving this goal includes not only strengthening and fully
implementing currently proven tobacco control measures, but also
changing the regulatory landscape to permit policy innovations.
Foremost among the IOM recommendations is that each state should
fund a comprehensive tobacco control program at the level
recommended by CDC in<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i>Best Practices for
Comprehensive Tobacco Control
Programs–2007</i>.<br>Evidence-based, statewide tobacco control
programs that are comprehensive, sustained, and accountable have
been shown to reduce smoking rates, tobacco-related deaths, and
diseases caused by smoking. A comprehensive program is a
coordinated effort to establish smoke-free policies and social
norms, to promote and assist tobacco users to quit, and to
prevent initiation of tobacco use. This approach combines
educational, clinical, regulatory, economic, and social
strategies.<br>Research has documented the effectiveness of laws
and policies to protect the public from secondhand smoke
exposure, promote cessation, and prevent initiation when they
are applied in a comprehensive way. For example, states can
increase the unit price of tobacco products; implement smoking
bans through policies, regulations, and laws; provide insurance
coverage of tobacco use treatment; and limit minors’ access to
tobacco products.<br>If the nation is to achieve the objectives
outlined in<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i>Healthy People
2010</i>, comprehensive, evidence-based approaches for
preventing smoking initiation and increasing cessation need to
be fully implemented.<br>
<h1>CDC's Response</h1>CDC is the lead federal agency for
tobacco control. CDC’s Office on Smoking and Health (OSH)
provides national leadership for a comprehensive, broad-based
approach to reducing tobacco use. A variety of government
agencies, professional and voluntary organizations, and academic
institutions have joined together to advance this approach,
which involves the following activities:<br>
<ul>
<li>Preventing young people from starting to smoke.<br>
</li><li>Eliminating exposure to secondhand smoke.<br>
</li><li>Promoting quitting among young people and
adults.<br>
</li><li>Identifying and eliminating tobacco-related health
disparities.</li></ul>Essential elements of this approach
include state-based, community-based, and health system-based
interventions; cessation services; counter marketing; policy
development and implementation; surveillance; and evaluation.
These activities target groups who are at highest risk for
tobacco-related health
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