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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>This is the
form your argument: I believe that X is wrong, so X should be illegal. That is a
bad argument. "</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Really?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I believe that murder is wrong so murder should be
illegal.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I believe that rape is wrong so rape should be
illegal.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I believe that arson is wrong so arson should be
illegal.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I believe that theft is wrong so theft should be
illegal.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I believe that child abuse is wrong so child abuse
should be illegal.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I believe that treason is wrong so treason should
be illegal.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Do I need to go on Mr. "I am a master of
argument?"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Is this really the sort of thing the tax payers of
Washington pay you to teach their kids? I gotta tell ya I really don't think
that their getting their monies worth.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>g</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
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<A title=philosopher.joe@gmail.com href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">Joe
Campbell</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=lockshop@pull.twcbc.com
href="mailto:lockshop@pull.twcbc.com">the lockshop</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com>"><vision2020@moscow.com></A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 25, 2009 6:57
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] "Please do not
continue to confuse people withfacts."</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>This is the form your argument: I believe that X is wrong, so X should be
illegal. That is a bad argument. </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Why should your moral beliefs, or the moral beliefs of anyone for that
matter, be the basis for law? And if you think they should matter, then there
is NO reason for you to criticize Dan or anyone else for voting for the
smoking ban as long as they thought that smoking in doors in public places was
wrong. Apparently you think Dan's vote was "selfish" because you think that
people's personal beliefs are irrelevant when it comes to matters of the law.
So in at least some instances you seem to agree with my reasoning.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Your beliefs on abortion entitle you to restrict your own behavior but
not to restrict the behavior of others. The only basis for restricting
behavior through law, as I see it, is clear harms to clear
persons.<BR><BR>Sent from my iPhone</DIV>
<DIV><BR>On Jul 24, 2009, at 3:40 PM, "the lockshop" <<A
href="mailto:lockshop@pull.twcbc.com">lockshop@pull.twcbc.com</A>>
wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>He
believes that his view that the fetus is a person trumps all other views. I
believe it is not the kind of issue that anyone can be certain of and that
the law should deal with knowledge, not certainty."</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Since I believe that the fetus is a person, how
could I not believe that it trumps all other views? Since, as you admit
there is uncertainty, I prefer to err on the side of caution and allow a
fetus to live rather than take a what the hell attitude and have an
innocent person die.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>g</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=philosopher.joe@gmail.com
href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">Joe Campbell</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=bear@moscow.com
href="mailto:bear@moscow.com">Wayne Price</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=lockshop@pull.twcbc.com
href="mailto:lockshop@pull.twcbc.com">the lockshop</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A></A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 24, 2009 11:36
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] "Please do
not continue to confuse people with facts."</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Wayne,</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I share your beliefs -- exactly. And in the past Crabtree has made
fun of these same beliefs, so don't expect him to respond. As in the case
of Sunil's questions, he'll remain silent when his inconsistencies are
obvious. The diiference between our views and Crabtree's is that we
genuinely respect freedom and think people should decide for themselves
about personal, religious, philosophical issues. Crabtree is only for
those freedoms that coincide with his own world view. He is not for
freedom per se. He believes that his view that the fetus is a person
trumps all other views. I believe it is not the kind of issue that anyone
can be certain of and that the law should deal with knowledge, not
certainty.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Joe<BR><BR>Sent from my iPhone</DIV>
<DIV><BR>On Jul 24, 2009, at 2:14 PM, Wayne Price <<A
href="mailto:bear@moscow.com"><A
href="mailto:bear@moscow.com">bear@moscow.com</A></A>>
wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Gary,
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<DIV>I too am stuck with this one. While I am personally anti-abortion,
I am still pro-choice on the matter. IF I were in a situation where the
abortion decision had to be made, I would choose NOT to terminate
the pregnancy and put the child up for adoption. HOWEVER, I still
believe that the choice to be made should NOT be the governments to make
but the individuals. <BR>
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<DIV>Wayne</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Is mis-stating my position really the
only way you can think of to try and make a valid point?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As I have said repeatedly, I believe that
if homosexuals can find someone who is willing to pronounce them man
and man, wife and wife, or man, wife, wife, or any permutation
thereof then swell, I wish them the best. What I am not in favor
of is in my or the state being forced to recognize it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>With regard to the abortion issue
though I've really got to admit that you've got me caught on the horns
of a delimma. How could I not see the similarity between making a
choice that has a 1 in 15 chance of potentially damaging the
health of the person doing the
choosing and making a decision that has a 100% chance
of killing an innocent party?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>In both of your examples the decision
extends to others who will not be given a choice to participate. Bar
patrons and employess do get to make an informed choice and as a
result your comments seem a trifle lame.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>g</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(228,228,228); -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial"><B>From:</B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
title=philosopher.joe@gmail.com
href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">Joe Campbell</A></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
title=lockshop@pull.twcbc.com
href="mailto:lockshop@pull.twcbc.com">the lockshop</A></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
title=tim.rigsby@hotmail.com
href="mailto:tim.rigsby@hotmail.com">TIM RIGSBY</A><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>;<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
title=starbliss@gmail.com
href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com>"><</A><A
href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com"><A
href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com">starbliss@gmail.com</A></A>><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>;<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com>"><</A><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A></A>></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Friday, July 24, 2009 9:29
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Re: [Vision2020] "Please do
not continue to confuse people with facts."</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>You don't even think that ADULTS are able to make decisions
about whom to marry or whether pr not to have children, so stop
pretending to respect a person's right to make decisions for him or
herself! <BR><BR>Sent from my iPhone</DIV>
<DIV><BR>On Jul 24, 2009, at 12:11 PM, "the lockshop" <<A
href="mailto:lockshop@pull.twcbc.com"></A><A
href="mailto:lockshop@pull.twcbc.com"><A
href="mailto:lockshop@pull.twcbc.com">lockshop@pull.twcbc.com</A></A>>
wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>It would seem that you, Mr. Moffet, and our
city council have a mighty low opinion of the intelligence of the
patrons and employees of bars and taverns. I can't speak for your
students but, I find it very difficult to believe that by the time
a citizen reaches the age of 21 in the United States he
hasn't heard the anti-smoking mantra to the point of
nausea.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>How lucky we are that there are people out
there who will take it upon themselves to prevent emancipated
Americans from making their own decisions with regard to the risks
they take in life.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>g</FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(228,228,228); -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial"><B>From:</B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
title=tim.rigsby@hotmail.com
href="mailto:tim.rigsby@hotmail.com">TIM RIGSBY</A></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
title=starbliss@gmail.com
href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com"></A><A
href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com"></A><A
href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com"><A
href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com">starbliss@gmail.com</A></A><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>;<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></A><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></A><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A></A></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Friday, July 24, 2009
7:47 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Re: [Vision2020]
"Please do not continue to confuse people with facts."</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I would like to add the idea of this
saying,<BR><BR>"Don't let the facts get in the way of a good
story."<BR><BR>Either way Ted, you brought up some very valid
points that tend to be forgotten when people discuss
tobacco/smoking regulation and legislation. What scares me
as a Health Teacher is when I hear my junior high and high
school aged students talking about how safe, they think anyway,
Hookah bars are. When asked if they would ever smoke
cigarettes, they claim that they won't. Yet what these
students don't realize is that they are actually smoking tobacco
at the high school hookah parties. What is even scarier is
a lot of the parents think that hookah is a safe alternative as
well. <SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR><BR>The hookah bar
closest to my house in Boise is constantly packed with young
people all of the time. Often times, other substances are
being laced into the tobacco as well and these young people are
unknowingly smoking illegal drugs along with their fruit and
tobacco mixture.<BR><BR>I predict in the not so distant future,
Boise and possibly the State Legislature will enact legislation
to regulate/control these hookah establishments.<BR><BR>Here is
a question to ponder. By definition based on Idaho Code,
what is a hookah bar categorized as? A restaurant, a bar,
a private club? If it falls under the bar definition, then
people under 21 should not be allowed in. It seems as
though hookah bars would fall into an undefined gray area of the
Idaho Clean Indoor Air Act. However, Moscow seems to have
covered hookah bars in their recent ban of smoking, I could be
wrong though.<BR><BR>" 'Politics is the art of controlling your
environment.' That is one of the key things I learned in these
years, and I learned it the hard way. Anybody who thinks that
'it doesn't matter who's President' has never been Drafted and
sent off to fight and die in a vicious, stupid War on the other
side of the World -- or been beaten and gassed by Police for
trespassing on public property -- or been hounded by the IRS for
purely political reasons -- or locked up in the Cook County Jail
with a broken nose and no phone access and twelve perverts
wanting to stomp your ass in the shower. That is when it matters
who is President or Governor or Police Chief. That is when you
will wish you had voted." - Hunter S.
Thompson<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:39:45 -0700<BR>From:<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com"></A><A
href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com"></A><A
href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com"><A
href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com">starbliss@gmail.com</A></A><BR>To:<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></A><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></A><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A></A><BR>Subject:
[Vision2020] "Please do not continue to confuse people with
facts."<BR><BR>
<DIV>The "Off List" response referenced, from someone I regard
as one of the most educated and honest Vision2020 participants,
that I received to my post below on tobacco regulation, is
in total what is stated in the subject heading of this
post. Wise words, no doubt, that I ignore at my own
risk...</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Notice there is limited or no discussion of some of the
critical facts my post presented: that tobacco
(nicotine) is a physically addictive drug, with
underage tobacco addiction common, raising questions if whether
adult "choice" is in effect regarding employees or consumers in
tobacco related decisions; that tobacco is the leading
cause of premature death (nuclear waste or energy or even
nuclear weapons production is not even close as a cause of
premature death); that other drugs doing less harm to society
than tobacco are criminalized and prosecuted
aggressively, involving civil and human rights violations,
yet who among those opposing regulation of
tobacco, will as aggressively advocate for these drugs
to be managed by free choice and the marketplace, rather than a
government "Big Brother?" Some, perhaps... While there are
others who should know better playing some on this list as
fools, for the sake of debate, or political advantage, or
popular image or whatever... Or they are as deluded as those
they are debating with...</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>My response to the "Off List" comment discussed
here:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Ummm... OK, I guess... However, being an idealist in belief
that expressing the truth is morally mandated (where did I get
that dangerous idea? I''ll end up in serious
trouble! Oh, I forgot, I already am...), I may not
comply. I recently read a variation of this same
expression in James Lovelock's "Revenge of Gaia:" "Don't confuse
me with the facts, my minds made up." Lovelock was
referring to this mentality regarding the rejection of nuclear
power by many in the environmental movement.</DIV>
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<DIV>Ted<BR> </DIV></SPAN><SPAN class=q
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Please do not continue to confuse people
with facts. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message
-----</DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(228,228,228); -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial"><B>From:</B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
title=starbliss@gmail.com
href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com">Ted Moffett</A></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Moscow Vision
2020</A></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Wednesday, July 22,
2009 1:55 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>[Vision2020]
Tobacco: Targeting the Nation’s Leading Killer: Centers for
Disease Control</DIV>
<DIV><BR> </DIV>
<DIV>Tobacco (nicotine) is a physically addictive
drug. Once addicted, "choice" becomes a problematic
concept. And many people become addicted while
underage, encouraged to continue their addiction in bars,
where cigarettes are often shared between
customers. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The fact tobacco is physically addictive is absent from
the comments of many opposing the smoking ordinance, as are
the facts regarding the magnitude of the
damage. Comparisons to other harmful
behaviors are drawn (fatty food, etc.), suggesting that a
slippery slope of regulation will lead to government control
over too many aspects of life, but many of these
behaviors do not involve a drug addiction. Of
course alcohol has dramatic negative impacts. But
workers in bars are not forced to drink the drinks the
customers order, as they breathe the smoke of the
customers. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I find it incredible that the health of workers exposed
to an addictive drug when they breathe in the workplace is
approached so callously. They can work elsewhere, it's
announced with smug authority, as if in this economy workers
have the luxury of choosing whatever job suits their fancy,
rather than an urgency to take whatever work they can
find. If it was cocaine or heroin or methamphetamine
that workers were exposed to, the attitude might be
different. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Profits from exposing workers to addictive drugs in the
workplace should be protected based on free market, free
choice, adult responsibility? If this is the logic,
where are the protests against laws imposed on
those selling cocaine, heroin or methamphetamine, et.
al., to consenting adults, which can result in long
prison sentences? Let the free market decide!
Why stand in the way of profits and the free choice of
adults? </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>If those opposing the smoking ordinance were consistent
in their outrage against limits on the free market, their
ideology might have more intellectual credibility.
Instead, the libertarianism proposed is inconsistent and
conformist. Or perhaps those opposed to the smoking
ordinance will now protest that bars do not allow legal
cocaine, heroin or methamphetamine use? Think of the
profits to be made! And remember, tobacco prematurely
kills more people than those three drugs combined...</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>If attempts were made to criminalize tobacco like
cannabis is, resulting in prison sentences, home invasions,
for sale or use, I would oppose this vehemently. But
an ordinance regulating smoking in bars does not stop any
adult from legally using tobacco products in settings where
they do not expose workers.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>If worker freedom of choice was a valid argument to
justify the exposure of workers to tobacco smoke in bars,
than OSHA could be mostly eliminated. After all, if
workers exposed to hazards monitored or banned by OSHA don't
want to work with those risks, they can work elsewhere, as
long as signs posted in the workplace inform them of the
risks. A "Big Brother" government bureaucracy
gone. </DIV>
<DIV>--------------------------</DIV>
<DIV><A
href="http://www.cdc.gov/NCCDPHP/publications/aag/osh.htm"></A><A
href="http://www.cdc.gov/NCCDPHP/publications/aag/osh.htm"></A><A
href="http://www.cdc.gov/NCCDPHP/publications/aag/osh.htm"><A
href="http://www.cdc.gov/NCCDPHP/publications/aag/osh.htm">http://www.cdc.gov/NCCDPHP/publications/aag/osh.htm</A></A></DIV>
<DIV>
<H2>The Burden of Tobacco Use</H2>Tobacco use is the single
most preventable cause of disease, disability, and death in
the United States. Each year, an estimated 443,000 people
die prematurely from smoking or exposure to secondhand
smoke, and another 8.6 million have a serious illness caused
by smoking. For every person who dies from smoking, 20 more
people suffer from at least one serious tobacco-related
illness. Despite these risks, approximately 43.4 million
U.S. adults smoke cigarettes. Smokeless tobacco, cigars, and
pipes also have deadly consequences, including lung, larynx,
esophageal, and oral cancers.<BR>The harmful effects of
smoking do not end with the smoker. More than 126 million
nonsmoking Americans, including children and adults, are
regularly exposed to secondhand smoke. Even brief exposure
can be dangerous because nonsmokers inhale many of the same
carcinogens and toxins in cigarette smoke as smokers.
Secondhand smoke exposure causes serious disease and death,
including heart disease and lung cancer in nonsmoking adults
and sudden infant death syndrome, acute respiratory
infections, ear problems, and more frequent and severe
asthma attacks in children. Each year, primarily because of
exposure to secondhand smoke, an estimated 3,000 nonsmoking
Americans die of lung cancer, more than 46,000 (range:
22,700–69,600) die of heart disease, and about
150,000–300,000 children younger than 18 months have lower
respiratory tract infections.<BR>Coupled with this enormous
health toll is the significant economic burden of tobacco
use—more than $96 billion per year in medical expenditures
and another $97 billion per year resulting from lost
productivity.<BR>
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<H2>The Tobacco Use Epidemic Can Be Stopped</H2>A 2007
Institute of Medicine (IOM) report presented a blueprint for
action to “reduce smoking so substantially that it is no
longer a public health problem for our nation.” The
two-pronged strategy for achieving this goal includes not
only strengthening and fully implementing currently proven
tobacco control measures, but also changing the regulatory
landscape to permit policy innovations. Foremost among the
IOM recommendations is that each state should fund a
comprehensive tobacco control program at the level
recommended by CDC in<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><I>Best Practices
for Comprehensive Tobacco Control
Programs–2007</I>.<BR>Evidence-based, statewide tobacco
control programs that are comprehensive, sustained, and
accountable have been shown to reduce smoking rates,
tobacco-related deaths, and diseases caused by smoking. A
comprehensive program is a coordinated effort to establish
smoke-free policies and social norms, to promote and assist
tobacco users to quit, and to prevent initiation of tobacco
use. This approach combines educational, clinical,
regulatory, economic, and social strategies.<BR>Research has
documented the effectiveness of laws and policies to protect
the public from secondhand smoke exposure, promote
cessation, and prevent initiation when they are applied in a
comprehensive way. For example, states can increase the unit
price of tobacco products; implement smoking bans through
policies, regulations, and laws; provide insurance coverage
of tobacco use treatment; and limit minors’ access to
tobacco products.<BR>If the nation is to achieve the
objectives outlined in<SPAN
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2010</I>, comprehensive, evidence-based approaches for
preventing smoking initiation and increasing cessation need
to be fully implemented.<BR>
<H1>CDC's Response</H1>CDC is the lead federal agency for
tobacco control. CDC’s Office on Smoking and Health (OSH)
provides national leadership for a comprehensive,
broad-based approach to reducing tobacco use. A variety of
government agencies, professional and voluntary
organizations, and academic institutions have joined
together to advance this approach, which involves the
following activities:<BR>
<UL>
<LI>Preventing young people from starting to
smoke.<BR>
<LI>Eliminating exposure to secondhand smoke.<BR>
<LI>Promoting quitting among young people and
adults.<BR>
<LI>Identifying and eliminating tobacco-related health
disparities.</LI></UL>Essential elements of this approach
include state-based, community-based, and health
system-based interventions; cessation services; counter
marketing; policy development and implementation;
surveillance; and evaluation. These activities target groups
who are at highest risk for tobacco-related health
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