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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Well then, my question is the same as the one I
asked Tom. Why the concern about their veteran status? Why
is that status relevant to this discussion? (For the record, I have
written nothing at all on the Viz pro or con the smoking ban. I am
highly allergic to smoke, so I don't go to bars that allow smoking. I
think the only thing I miss because of my decision is that the non-smoking bars
don't have entertainment, but I can live with that. )</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Sue H. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=cjsnightclub@cableone.net
href="mailto:cjsnightclub@cableone.net">Shelley Roderick</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=thansen@moscow.com
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">Tom Hansen</A> ; <A title=suehovey@moscow.com
href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">Sue Hovey</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">v2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:07
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] An open letter
to Moscow city council</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Sue,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>It is all about life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It is
called freedom. That is what our Veterans have fought and died
for. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>These are all of our rights. We don't want to see a handful of
people (regardless of Veteran status) tamper with our rights for which
20 generations have fought to preserve.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Phil Roderick </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV id=IncrediOriginalMessage dir=ltr><I>-------Original
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<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>From:</B></I> <A
href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">Sue Hovey</A></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>Date:</B></I> 7/15/2009
11:06:43 AM</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>To:</B></I> <A
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">Tom Hansen</A>; <A
href="mailto:cjsnightclub@cableone.net">Shelley Roderick</A></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>Cc:</B></I> <A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">v2020</A></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>Subject:</B></I> Re:
[Vision2020] An open letter to Moscow city council</DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Are you saying that one has to be a veteran to make solid
decisions? Or if</DIV>
<DIV>one is not a veteran and makes a decision with which you do not
agree, their</DIV>
<DIV>decision is somehow less than valid because of their lack of
veteran status?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Sue H.</DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message -----</DIV>
<DIV>From: "Tom Hansen" <<A
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A>></DIV>
<DIV>To: "Shelley Roderick" <<A
href="mailto:cjsnightclub@cableone.net">cjsnightclub@cableone.net</A>></DIV>
<DIV>Cc: "v2020" <<A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>></DIV>
<DIV>Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 3:15 PM</DIV>
<DIV>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] An open letter to Moscow city
council</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Just a simple question that deserves a simple, yet civil, answer
like</DIV>
<DIV>"yes" or "no".</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Tom Hansen</DIV>
<DIV>Moscow, Idaho</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>> Tom - Why don't you call them and ask?</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> For those of you that wish to contact Moscow city council via
email, here</DIV>
<DIV>> is</DIV>
<DIV>> how you can email all council members directly with only one
email.</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> 1) Go to: <A
href="http://www.moscow.id.us/">www.moscow.id.us/</A></DIV>
<DIV>> 2) Click on the blue "council" tab.</DIV>
<DIV>> 3) Click on "meet the council."</DIV>
<DIV>> 4) Click on "Email all council members" at the bottom of the
page.</DIV>
<DIV>> 5) To be valid, include your full name and address for the
record.</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> -------Original Message-------</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> From: Tom Hansen</DIV>
<DIV>> Date: 7/14/2009 3:02:03 PM</DIV>
<DIV>> To: <A href="mailto:bear@moscow.com">bear@moscow.com</A></DIV>
<DIV>> Cc: v2020</DIV>
<DIV>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] An open letter to Moscow city
council</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> Was this email really sent to the city council?</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> The only address on it is Vision 2020.</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> Tom Hansen</DIV>
<DIV>> Moscoa, Idaho</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>>> Visionaries,</DIV>
<DIV>>></DIV>
<DIV>>></DIV>
<DIV>>> I agree with Phil's letter below, and am hoping the
listees can give me</DIV>
<DIV>>> some information in regards to it.</DIV>
<DIV>>></DIV>
<DIV>>> How many members of the current administration are
veterans?</DIV>
<DIV>>></DIV>
<DIV>>></DIV>
<DIV>>> W</DIV>
<DIV>>></DIV>
<DIV>>></DIV>
<DIV>>
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------</DIV>
<DIV>> ----------------------------</DIV>
<DIV>>>></DIV>
<DIV>>>> ATTENTION: YOU ARE ENTERING A SMOKE FILLED ENVIRONMENT
AND WILL BE</DIV>
<DIV>>>> SUBJECT</DIV>
<DIV>>>> TO SECOND HAND SMOKE! ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK! THIS
ESTABLISHMENT COULD</DIV>
<DIV>>>> BE</DIV>
<DIV>>>> HAZARDOUS TO YOUR HEALTH!</DIV>
<DIV>>>></DIV>
<DIV>>>> Twenty generations have sacrificed loved ones to fight
for the</DIV>
<DIV>>>> freedoms</DIV>
<DIV>>>> for</DIV>
<DIV>>>> which we are able to enjoy today. It is very sad to me
when a small</DIV>
<DIV>>>> handful</DIV>
<DIV>>>> of people representing our city can take the blood
that was shed and</DIV>
<DIV>>>> ignore</DIV>
<DIV>>>> the sacrifices made to insure our right to, "life,
liberty and</DIV>
<DIV>>>> happiness."</DIV>
<DIV>>>></DIV>
<DIV>>>> I have flown an American flag on my building since I
bought it because</DIV>
<DIV>>>> I</DIV>
<DIV>>>> respect the blood, sweat and tears that allow me to do
so. The city</DIV>
<DIV>>>> council</DIV>
<DIV>>>> should also respect and honor the same.</DIV>
<DIV>>>></DIV>
<DIV>>>> The city should agree with the Federal Government that
when a person</DIV>
<DIV>>>> turns</DIV>
<DIV>>>> the age of 21, they have a mental capacity to make
sound decisions and</DIV>
<DIV>>>> will</DIV>
<DIV>>>> be held responsible for those decisions in a court of
law. This</DIV>
<DIV>>>> includes</DIV>
<DIV>>>> their health. The city should not impose their
"personal guidance" to</DIV>
<DIV>>>> those</DIV>
<DIV>>>> who have just obtained the privilege of choice. They
do not need to</DIV>
<DIV>>>> baby</DIV>
<DIV>>>> sit</DIV>
<DIV>>>> However, they should be
babysitting where smoking is allowed. Where</DIV>
<DIV>>>> children walk our sidewalks and play in city
parks.</DIV>
<DIV>>>></DIV>
<DIV>>>> In regards to "employee health," No one is forced to
work in a smoked</DIV>
<DIV>>>> filled</DIV>
<DIV>>>> environment. They came looking for a job. If they find
it is not for</DIV>
<DIV>>>> them,</DIV>
<DIV>>>> they have the right of freedom to work elsewhere. The
customer has a</DIV>
<DIV>>>> right</DIV>
<DIV>>>> to walk in my doors, or not. They even have the right
to leave once</DIV>
<DIV>>>> inside.</DIV>
<DIV>>>> Liberty of choice and free will granted to us from the
blood of our</DIV>
<DIV>>>> forefathers.</DIV>
<DIV>>>></DIV>
<DIV>>>> The first thing I see when I walk into city hall is a
United States</DIV>
<DIV>>>> flag.</DIV>
<DIV>>>> The last thing I see when I leave city hall is a
United States flag.</DIV>
<DIV>>>> Let's</DIV>
<DIV>>>> not loose what that flag stands for.</DIV>
<DIV>>>></DIV>
<DIV>>>> If the city agrees to this smoking ban I would like to
suggest they</DIV>
<DIV>>>> also</DIV>
<DIV>>>> consider an ordinance stopping the farmers from
farming as it blows</DIV>
<DIV>>>> dust</DIV>
<DIV>>>> that I breathe that causes my asthma to flare up. Talk
about a health</DIV>
<DIV>>>> issue!</DIV>
<DIV>>>> How about bringing it up to vote when approximately
60% of Moscow's</DIV>
<DIV>>>> citizens</DIV>
<DIV>>>> are back in town? Let the citizens of Moscow decide.
Give them the</DIV>
<DIV>>>> opportunity to voice an opinion on their own freedoms
and liberties.</DIV>
<DIV>>>> Let</DIV>
<DIV>>>> the</DIV>
<DIV>>>> majority decide. Not a handful.</DIV>
<DIV>>>></DIV>
<DIV>>>> 1/3 of the bars in Moscow are non-smoking by choice.
The city should</DIV>
<DIV>>>> not</DIV>
<DIV>>>> interfere with the liberties of other bars and private
clubs.</DIV>
<DIV>>>></DIV>
<DIV>>>> You ask why other bar owners are not speaking up? How
about listening</DIV>
<DIV>>>> to</DIV>
<DIV>>>> the</DIV>
<DIV>>>> ones that are. I believe in fighting for the rights
and liberties of</DIV>
<DIV>>>> my</DIV>
<DIV>>>> 24</DIV>
<DIV>>>> employees and thousands of customers that choose to
walk through my</DIV>
<DIV>>>> doors.</DIV>
<DIV>>>> They count on me.</DIV>
<DIV>>>></DIV>
<DIV>>>> Bill Parks, who introduced this ordinance states, "it
is a work place,</DIV>
<DIV>>>> health issue. The only place we allow really dangerous
things is in</DIV>
<DIV>>>> second</DIV>
<DIV>>>> hand smoke." Well, how about coal mines? Gas
refineries? Plastic</DIV>
<DIV>>>> manufacturers? Paint fumes? As I understand, his
company manufactures</DIV>
<DIV>>>> and</DIV>
<DIV>>>> builds thing in Mexico. He pays his workers in pesos.
Why isn't Moscow</DIV>
<DIV>>>> good</DIV>
<DIV>>>> enough for him to employ and manufacture his wares
here? Could it be</DIV>
<DIV>>>> government enforced workman's comp? Minimum wage?
Social Security</DIV>
<DIV>>>> taxes?</DIV>
<DIV>>>> Not</DIV>
<DIV>>>> to forget the OSHA laws which are not enforced in
Mexico? Why Bill</DIV>
<DIV>>>> Parks</DIV>
<DIV>>>> do</DIV>
<DIV>>>> you choose to have your companies in Mexico? I can
tell you why I</DIV>
<DIV>>>> choose</DIV>
<DIV>>>> to</DIV>
<DIV>>>> have mine in Moscow, Idaho.</DIV>
<DIV>>>></DIV>
<DIV>>>> The chains of slavery on business were cut in 1776.
Let's not put them</DIV>
<DIV>>>> back</DIV>
<DIV>>>> on.</DIV>
<DIV>>>></DIV>
<DIV>>>> Let freedom ring.</DIV>
<DIV>>>></DIV>
<DIV>>>> Phil Roderick</DIV>
<DIV>>>></DIV>
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href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</A></DIV>
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<DIV>>></DIV>
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<DIV>>> List services made available by First Step
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<DIV>>></DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects
it to</DIV>
<DIV>> change</DIV>
<DIV>> and the Realist adjusts his sails."</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> - Unknown</DIV>
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>"The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to
change</DIV>
<DIV>and the Realist adjusts his sails."</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>- Unknown</DIV>
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