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Gary,<br><br>You're here right now pretending McCain didn't make the joke. I've never seen video of it, and apparently that's the only proof you'll accept. Meanwhile in the reality-based community there's not much question about it.<br><br>As for Craig...damn right I'd object to it in the courtroom, that's my job, even if I believe the rumor to be true. And I'd have told him to see if he could get the charge amended to disturbing the peace and try to make it go away, which is what he tried to do. I'll bet a lawyer told him to do that when it happened. I don't believe he never consulted with a lawyer prior to his plea. Of course we can't know unless he gives that lawyer permission to speak about it, or he tells us himself; both are unlikely to happen.<br><br>It's not a case I'd be eager to take to trial if I could get a decent offer. And I sure wouldn't want to put him on the stand to tell his version of it, the one you believe. Well, I'd do it if I could get six of you in the jury box; maybe just you would be enough if we wanted to put our hopes on a hung jury. <br><br>But I wouldn't take that chance with you for a client who wasn't a Republican senator. I think you'd be able to call bullshit on that story if it weren't Craig telling it.<br><br>Getting back to the original point, Palin's a public figure, and she's fair game. Her kids should be off limits, unless they take steps to make themselves into public figures. Bristol Palin's done that with her decision to become a spokesperson for abstinence, but I still wouldn't make jokes about her and the Yankee third baseman.<br><br>Sunil<br><br><hr id="stopSpelling">From: jampot@roadrunner.com<br>To: sunilramalingam@hotmail.com<br>CC: vision2020@moscow.com<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Is Our City Council 'Pulling a Palin'onDowntown Parking<br>Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:28:59 -0700<br><br>
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<div><font face="Arial">Would you be willing to provide me with the quote in which
I said either of those things? I don't doubt for a second that McCain could have
made the joke. (it was only half funny. I think Chelsea is kind of cute) I also
know that hanson can't document it. With regard to Craig, can you provide
indisputable proof that he's gay? He might well be but, pleading guilty to
disorderly conduct really doesn't make as strong a case as you seem to think.
The only sure proof would be for Craig to come out and admit to the fact. He
hasn't. Apart from that everything else is conjecture. I'm would have to believe
that you would object to it in the courtroom, why do you embrace it
here?</font></div>
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<a title="sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">Sunil Ramalingam</a> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal;"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision 2020</a> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal;"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 11, 2009 8:46
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<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Is Our City
Council 'Pulling a Palin'onDowntown Parking</div>
<div><br></div>Gary,<br><br>I don't know what's sillier, your delusional
belief that McCain didn't make that joke, or that Larry Craig is telling the
truth. <br><br>Sunil<br><br>> From: <a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">jampot@roadrunner.com</a><br>> To: <a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>; <a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a><br>>
CC: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Is Our City Council 'Pulling a Palin' onDowntown
Parking<br>> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 07:08:18 -0700<br>> <br>>
Actually, why don't you document the example you just provided. Hows about
<br>> you provide a link to the video or the audio of McCain actually
making that <br>> particular jape? I'm afraid a mention on a left wing web
site isn't quite <br>> the definitive documentation needed to convince me.
Being the lists u-tube <br>> guru, this ought to be a fairly simple matter
for you to arrange.<br>> <br>> Maybe while you're at it find something
equivalent to the amusing anecdotes <br>> involving the 14 year old
daughters of conservative western state governors <br>> having casual sex
in public with baseball players widely noted for their <br>> inability to
keep it in their trousers. That would be a real hoot.<br>> <br>> I'll be
waiting for that link...<br>> <br>> g<br>> ----- Original Message
----- <br>> From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen@moscow.com><br>> To:
"Sunil Ramalingam" <sunilramalingam@hotmail.com><br>> Cc: "vision
2020" <vision2020@moscow.com><br>> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 12:10
PM<br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Is Our City Council 'Pulling a Palin'
onDowntown <br>> Parking<br>> <br>> <br>> > For instance . .
.<br>> ><br>> > "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her
father is Janet Reno." "<br>> ><br>> > - Sen. John McCain,
speaking to a Republican dinner, June 1998.<br>> ><br>> >
http://crooksandliars.com/2008/02/09/john-mccains-crude-chelsea-clinton-joke/<br>>
><br>> > -------------<br>> ><br>> > Let me know if you
are interested in more McCain-isms, g. And be specific<br>> > if you
prefer McCain during the early years (1988 - 2000) or something<br>> >
more contemporary, ok?<br>> ><br>> > Tom Hansen<br>> >
Moscow, Idaho<br>> ><br>> >><br>> >> Really? You've
never heard of it before?<br>> >><br>> >> S<br>>
>><br>> >> From: lockshop@pull.twcbc.com<br>> >> To:
sunilramalingam@hotmail.com<br>> >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Is Our
City Council 'Pulling a Palin'<br>> >> onDowntown Parking<br>>
>> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 11:49:27 -0700<br>> >><br>>
>><br>> >><br>> >><br>> >><br>>
>><br>> >><br>> >><br>> >><br>>
>><br>> >> Document?<br>> >><br>> >>
g<br>> >><br>> >> ----- Original Message -----<br>>
>> From:<br>> >> Sunil Ramalingam<br>> >> Cc: vision
2020<br>> >> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 11:27<br>> >>
AM<br>> >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Is Our City<br>> >>
Council 'Pulling a Palin' onDowntown Parking<br>> >><br>> >>
Gary,<br>> >><br>> >> I guess you could ask John McCain
about where the<br>> >> limits are; based on his behavior, he seemed
to believe in 1998 that it<br>> >> was<br>> >> open season
on Hillary Clinton, Janet Reno, and Chelsea Clinton, when<br>> >> the
last<br>> >> was 18. At least she was no longer legally a<br>>
>> child.<br>> >><br>> >> Sunil<br>>
>><br>> >><br>> >>> From:
lockshop@pull.twcbc.com<br>> >>> To:<br>> >>
jampot@roadrunner.com<br>> >>> Date:<br>> >> Fri, 10 Jul
2009 09:47:26 -0700<br>> >>> CC: vision2020@moscow.com<br>>
>>><br>> >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Is Our City Council
'Pulling a Palin' on<br>> >> Downtown<br>> >>
Parking<br>> >>><br>> >>> No appology required (after
all, I'm not the one<br>> >> being crudely refered to)<br>>
>>> but, does this mean that any vulgar or<br>> >> sexual
remark is fair game when<br>> >>> discussing public figures? I
don't<br>> >> think I am personally willing to go down<br>>
>>> that path but it would be<br>> >> nice to know what the
current ground rules are. Is<br>> >>> it now going to be<br>>
>> cool to make ribald, boardering on obscene suggestions<br>>
>>> about Michele<br>> >> Obama? Can we now go crazy when
remarking on Hillary's looks<br>> >>> and<br>> >>
sexuality? Can we drop it on down to the local level and smear Mayor<br>>
>>><br>> >> Chaney with remarks simalar to those made by
late night TV hacks? <br>> >> Please<br>> >><br>>
>>> fill me in with regard to where the boundries are going to be set
or<br>> >> if<br>> >>> there will be any at all. It pains
me to be behind the curve.<br>> >> Speaking of<br>> >>>
which:<br>> >>><br>> >>> Emailing:<br>> >>
6a00d8341c4df253ef011570f27fe3970c-800wi<br>> >>><br>>
>>> g<br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>
----- Original Message -----<br>> >>> From:
<bear@moscow.com><br>> >>><br>> >> To: "Tom Hansen"
<thansen@moscow.com><br>> >>> Cc: "Moscow Vision
2020"<br>> >> <vision2020@moscow.com><br>> >>>
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 5:50<br>> >> PM<br>> >>>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Is Our City Council 'Pulling a Palin' on<br>>
>> Downtown<br>> >>> Parking<br>> >>><br>>
>>><br>> >>> ><br>> >>> > GARY:<br>>
>> I'll apologize up front, this IS a cheep shot but I just
can't<br>> >>> ><br>> >> resist!<br>> >>>
><br>> >>> ><br>> >>> > Would this be
considered<br>> >> "Governorus Interruptus" by the only Palin
with<br>> >>> > the sense to pull<br>> >> out early?
*S*<br>> >>> ><br>> >>> ><br>> >>>
><br>> >>> ><br>> >>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>>
>>><br>> >> >> The Urban Dictionary has adopted a new
phrase for its dictionary<br>> >> (with<br>> >>> >>
four definitions):<br>> >>> >><br>> >>>
>><br>> >> "Puling a Palin"<br>> >>>
>><br>> >>> >> Courtesy of the Urban<br>> >>
Dictionary at:<br>> >>> >><br>> >>>
>><br>> >>
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pulling+a+palin<br>>
>>><br>> >> >><br>> >>> >><br>>
>> ---------------------------------------------<br>> >>>
>><br>> >>><br>> >> >> 1. Pulling a
Palin<br>> >>> >><br>> >>> >> The
Republican<br>> >> art of disguising your inept knowledge by
answering a<br>> >>> >><br>> >> question with
another question as in "with what respect Charlie?"<br>>
>>><br>> >> >><br>> >>> >> Charlie
asks "do you agree with the Bush<br>> >> Doctrine?"<br>>
>>> >><br>> >>> >> Sarah responds "in what
respect<br>> >> Charlie?" "do you mean his world view"<br>>
>>> >> staring with blank<br>> >> ignorance at
Charlie.<br>> >>> >><br>> >>> >> Sarah was
just caught<br>> >> Pulling a Palin!<br>> >>>
>><br>> >>> >> ---------<br>> >>><br>>
>> >><br>> >>> >> 2. Pulling a Palin<br>>
>>> >><br>> >>> >><br>> >> Telling a
large and obvious lie for personal gain.<br>> >>> >><br>>
>>><br>> >> >> Even though I have a herpes sore on my
lip, I'm pulling a Palin<br>> >> and<br>> >>> >>
telling her I'm a virgin.<br>> >>> >><br>>
>>><br>> >> >> ---------<br>> >>>
>><br>> >>> >> 3. Pulling a<br>> >>
Palin<br>> >>> >><br>> >>> >> Rambling
non-stop unrelated<br>> >> information to try to hide the fact that
you<br>> >>> >> have no clue<br>> >> about what
someone just asked you.<br>> >>> >><br>> >>>
>> COURIC:<br>> >> Why isn't it better, Governor Palin, to
spend $700 billion<br>> >>> >><br>> >>
helping<br>> >>> >> middle-class families struggling with
health care,<br>> >> housing, gas and<br>> >>> >>
groceries? Allow them to spend more and put<br>> >> more money into
the economy?<br>> >>> >> Instead of helping these
big<br>> >> financial institutions that played a role in<br>>
>>> >> creating this<br>> >> mess?<br>>
>>> >><br>> >>> >> PALIN: That's why I say, I
like...<br>> >> ever American I'm speaking with were<br>>
>>> >> ill about this position<br>> >> that we have
been put in where it is the tax<br>> >>> >> payers
looking<br>> >> to bailout.<br>> >>> >><br>>
>>> >> But ultimately, what the bailout<br>> >>
does... is... help... those... who are<br>> >>> >> concerned
about the<br>> >> health care reform that is needed to help shore
up<br>> >>> >><br>> >> the<br>> >>>
>> economy ... Helping the ... Oh, it's got to be about job<br>>
>> creation too.<br>> >>> >> Shoring up our economy
and putting it back on<br>> >> the right track. So health<br>>
>>> >> care reform... and reducing<br>> >> taxes...
and reining in spending has got to<br>> >>> >> accompany
tax<br>> >> reductions... and tax relief for Americas... And
trade...<br>> >>> >><br>> >> we've got to see
trade... mmm... as opportunity... mmm... not as a<br>> >>><br>>
>> >> competitive scary thing. But 1 in 5 jobs being created in
the trade<br>> >><br>> >>> >> sector<br>>
>>> >> today. We've got to look at that as<br>> >>
more opportunity... All those things<br>> >>> >> under the
umbrella of<br>> >> job creation. This bailout is a part of
that.<br>> >>> >><br>> >>><br>> >>
>> COURIC: Are you pulling a Palin?<br>> >>>
>><br>> >>> >><br>> >> PALIN: Yes.<br>>
>>> >><br>> >>> >> ---------<br>>
>>><br>> >> >><br>> >>> >> 4.
Pulling a Palin 10 up, 2 down<br>> >>><br>> >>
>><br>> >>> >> Pulling a Palin is the act of being
chosen for the<br>> >> Republican party Vice<br>> >>>
>> President while knowing that your 17<br>> >> year old
daughter is pregnant. This<br>> >>> >> adds a lot of
controversy<br>> >> to the election as the family values and<br>>
>>> >> truthiness of Palin<br>> >> are
scrutinized.<br>> >>> >><br>> >>> >> Nick
is Pulling a Palin by<br>> >> entering that marathon with his
heart<br>> >>> >> condition.<br>> >>><br>>
>> >><br>> >>> >><br>> >>
---------------------------------------------<br>> >>>
>><br>> >>><br>> >> >> In light of . .
.<br>> >>> >><br>> >>> >><br>> >>
http://www.moscowcares.com/070609_06_DowntownParking.htm<br>>
>>><br>> >> >><br>> >>> >> We must
now ask ourselves seriously, Visionaires . .<br>> >> .<br>>
>>> >><br>> >>> >> Is our City Council
pulling a<br>> >> Palin?<br>> >>> >><br>>
>>> >> Seeya round town, Moscow.<br>> >>><br>>
>> >><br>> >>> >> Tom Hansen<br>>
>>> >> Moscow, Idaho<br>> >>><br>> >>
>><br>> >>> >> "The Pessimist complains about the
wind, the<br>> >> Optimist expects it to<br>> >>>
>> change<br>> >>> >> and the<br>> >> Realist
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>> -<br>> >> Unknown<br>> >>> >><br>>
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