<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>This is the only reason you gave! That is not a leap of logic! I'm just trying to follow YOUR reasoning. If you have other reasons, say what they are. </div><div><br></div><div>But that you can't accept the opinions of moderate members of your own party is telling, IMO.<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Jul 9, 2009, at 6:49 AM, "g. crabtree" <<a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">jampot@roadrunner.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">David Brooks, on BHO, in his own
words:</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div> From an interview with <em>The Atlantic</em>'s Jeffrey Goldberg</div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div>"... I was dazzled, I felt the tingle up my knee as Chris Matthews
would say."</div>
<div> </div>
<div> <font face="Arial" size="2">So, the fact that I don't find David Brooks
as conservative as I might prefer, it follows that the litmus test for true
conservatism must be hatred of the president? </font><font face="Arial" size="2">Another leap of logic that, as you never tire of reminding us,
only a professional master of the subject could make.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">g</font></div>
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<div style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><b>From:</b>
<a title="philosopher.joe@gmail.com" href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">Joe
Campbell</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="jampot@roadrunner.com" href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">g. crabtree</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="lockshop@pull.twcbc.com" href="mailto:lockshop@pull.twcbc.com">the lockshop</a> ; <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision
2020</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:19
PM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] NYTimes: In
Search of Dignity</div>
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<div>Brooks thinks that Obama is a model of dignity. He's not in awe of Obama
he just thinks he has dignity. So that makes him NOT a conservative!?!? It
seems to follow that you have to hate Obama to be a true conservative. That is
extreme, too extreme to appeal to the majority of voters.</div>
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<div>I might have stated the obvious but somehow you still don't get
it! <br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div><br>On Jul 8, 2009, at 6:16 PM, "g. crabtree" <<a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"><a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">jampot@roadrunner.com</a></a>>
wrote:<br><br></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Oh yes, I read the article. I would have
thought that almost anyone who has followed Mr. Brooks' career would be well
aware of why I might have used the descriptives that I did. Sorry if you're
new to the subject.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Regarding the most recent elective
outcomes, thank you so very much for your emphatic statement of the all
too obvious. You have finally found an area at which you might truly
excel! Since Brooks seems to stand in awe of your deity of
the moment, it really seems inappropriate to refer to him as conservative,
moderate or otherwise and it wouldn't seem to matter much to me whether he's
offended or not. As a BHO supplicant, he's part of the problem and none of
the solution.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">g</font></div>
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<a title="philosopher.joe@gmail.com" href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">Joe Campbell</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="lockshop@pull.twcbc.com" href="mailto:lockshop@pull.twcbc.com">the lockshop</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision 2020</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 08, 2009 7:57
AM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] NYTimes: In
Search of Dignity</div>
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<div>Did you read the Huffington Post article, Crabtree? It was pretty
funny but I don't see any mention of Brooks being a "liberal lapdog" or
having "quasi-conservative credentials." Where did you get that from?
Maybe he's not offensive or narrow-minded enough to fit your
definition! </div>
<div><br></div>
<div>But guess what? Repubican's LOST the last election for the White
House and Democrats now have a super-majority in congress. So you might
consider not offending the few moderate conservatives who haven't jumped
the sinking ship. Or perhaps not! Palin in 2012! <br><br>Sent from my
iPhone</div>
<div><br>On Jul 7, 2009, at 4:42 PM, "the lockshop" <<a href="mailto:lockshop@pull.twcbc.com"></a><a href="mailto:lockshop@pull.twcbc.com"><a href="mailto:lockshop@pull.twcbc.com">lockshop@pull.twcbc.com</a></a>>
wrote:<br><br></div>
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<div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">On becoming a liberal lap dog with
quasi-conservative credentials. From the huffington post:</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-hanft/become-david-brooks-in-an_b_227346.html"></a><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-hanft/become-david-brooks-in-an_b_227346.html"></a><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-hanft/become-david-brooks-in-an_b_227346.html"><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-hanft/become-david-brooks-in-an_b_227346.html">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-hanft/become-david-brooks-in-an_b_227346.html</a></a></font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">g</font></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision
2020</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 07, 2009
12:09 PM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> [Vision2020] NYTimes: In
Search of Dignity</div>
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<div>From The New York Times:<br><br>OP-ED COLUMNIST: In Search of
Dignity<br>
<div id="byline">By <a href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/opinion/editorialsandoped/oped/columnists/davidbrooks/index.html?inline=nyt-per">DAVID
BROOKS</a></div><br><br>The old dignity code that George Washington
once followed has not survived modern life. Every week there are new
scandals featuring people who simply do not know how to
act....<br><br><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/07/opinion/07brooks.html"></a><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/07/opinion/07brooks.html"></a><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/07/opinion/07brooks.html"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/07/opinion/07brooks.html">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/07/opinion/07brooks.html</a></a><br><br>Get
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