<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>What news program did Nina make those comments? <br><br>Joe Campbell</div><div><br>On Jun 14, 2009, at 2:30 PM, "Warren Hayman" <<a href="mailto:whayman@roadrunner.com">whayman@roadrunner.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
<div><font size="3" face="Garamond">Hi Gary,</font></div>
<div><font size="3" face="Garamond"></font> </div>
<div><font size="3" face="Garamond">I made no mention of bias-- I simply noted the
type of show. Simply not news, that's all.</font></div>
<div><font size="3" face="Garamond"></font> </div>
<div><font size="3" face="Garamond">Warren Hayman</font></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><b>From:</b>
<a title="jampot@roadrunner.com" href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">g.
crabtree</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="whayman@roadrunner.com" href="mailto:whayman@roadrunner.com">Warren Hayman</a> ; <a title="sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">Sunil Ramalingam</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision 2020</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, June 14, 2009 2:26 PM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] NYTimes: The
Big Hate</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>
<p><font face="Arial">Nina Totenberg on General Jerry Boykin:</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial"></font> </p>
<p><font face="Arial">"I hope he’s not long for this world."</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial"></font> </p>
<p><font face="Arial">On Senator Jesse Helms:</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial"></font> </p>
<p><font face="Arial">"If the "Good Lord" knew justice, Senator Jesse Helms will
"get AIDS from a transfusion, or one of his grandchildren will get
it."</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial"></font> </p>
<p><font face="Arial">Additionally, you didn't have to listen to more than a few
minutes of Totenberg's coverage of Justice Thomas' confirmation hearing to
discern that she was of the belief that Anita Hill walked on water and that
Thomas was the scum on the pond. Bias? Oh no.</font></p>
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<p><font face="Arial">onward...</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial"></font> </p>
<p><font face="Arial">"NPR’s own official ombudsman, Jeffrey Dvorkin, admitted a
liberal bias in NPR’s talk programming. The daily program "Fresh Air with
Terry Gross" – a 60-minute talk show about the arts, literature, and also
politics – airs on 378 public-radio stations across the fruited plain. Gross
recently became a hot topic on journalism Web sites for first having a
friendly, giggly interview with "satirist" Al Franken, promoting his obnoxious
screed against conservatives on September 3, and then on October 8, unloading
an accusatory, hostile interview on Bill O’Reilly. She pressed the Fox host to
respond to the obnoxious attacks of Franken and other critics. Dvorkin ruled:
"Unfortunately, the [O'Reilly] interview only served to confirm the belief,
held by some, in NPR's liberal media bias....by coming across as a pro-Franken
partisan rather than a neutral and curious journalist, Gross did almost
nothing that might have allowed the interview to develop."</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial"></font> </p>
<p><font face="Arial">I guess Mr. Ramalingam and Mr. Hayman must be right, no
liberal bias at NPR, no sir, none at all.</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial"></font> </p>
<p><font face="Arial">g</font></p></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><b>From:</b>
<a title="whayman@roadrunner.com" href="mailto:whayman@roadrunner.com">Warren
Hayman</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">Sunil Ramalingam</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision 2020</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, June 14, 2009 1:00
PM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] NYTimes: The
Big Hate</div>
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<div><font size="3" face="Garamond">Not to mention that "Fresh Air" with Terry
Gross consists of interviews, not news.</font></div>
<div><font size="3" face="Garamond"></font> </div>
<div><font size="3" face="Garamond">Warren Hayman</font></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><b>From:</b>
<a title="sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">Sunil Ramalingam</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision 2020</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, June 14, 2009 12:55
PM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] NYTimes:
The Big Hate</div>
<div><br></div>Gary,<br><br>Are you saying that Nina Totenberg spins her
reporting on the Supreme Court? How?<br><br>Sunil<br><br>> From:
<a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"><a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">jampot@roadrunner.com</a></a><br>>
To: <a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com"><a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</a></a>; <a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com"><a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a></a><br>> Date:
Sun, 14 Jun 2009 10:41:39 -0700<br>> CC: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a><br>>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] NYTimes: The Big Hate<br>> <br>> If you
imagine that MSNBC with Olbermann, Madow, and Mathews, Newsweek and
<br>> Evan Thomas, and taxpayer funded NPR with Jeffery Dvorkin, Nina
Totenberg, <br>> Terry Gross and Michele Norris doesn't put a
particularly and decidedly <br>> liberal spin on its "information" then
you're even thicker than I previously <br>> imagined. No mean feat,
that.<br>> <br>> g<br>> ----- Original Message ----- <br>>
From: "Joe Campbell" <<a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</a>><br>> To: "Paul
Rumelhart" <<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>><br>> Cc: "g. crabtree"
<<a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">jampot@roadrunner.com</a>>; <<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>><br>> Sent:
Sunday, June 14, 2009 5:41 AM<br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] NYTimes:
The Big Hate<br>> <br>> <br>> > Paul,<br>> ><br>>
> And what does this have to do with anything I've said? You're
obviously <br>> > reading something into my post that I did not
say.<br>> ><br>> > Fox news is a disgusting example of bias,
different in degree from any <br>> > other news organization, IMO.
That you would follow Tom's post with some <br>> > claim that
"Everyone does it" strikes me as irresponsible since it just <br>> >
muddys the water. Not every organization is biased in the way Fox is.
<br>> > Someone needed to point that out and I did so. That is all
there is to <br>> > it. I made no comments about conservative news
organizations in general, <br>> > just the one bad apple.<br>>
><br>> > Joe Campbell<br>> ><br>> > On Jun 14, 2009,
at 1:21 AM, Paul Rumelhart <<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>>
><br>> >> Joe Campbell wrote:<br>> >>> This is
precisely why I'm disagreeing with Paul. Folks like you have <br>>
>>> got him convinced that the NY Times is as bad as Fox News.
What a joke!<br>> >><br>> >> Nowhere did I say that the
NY Times is as bad as Fox News. All I said <br>> >> was that all
news has bias. That includes both the NY Times and Fox <br>> >>
News, but it says nothing about the amount of bias relative to each
<br>> >> other.<br>> >><br>> >> You've drawn a
line in the sand. There is a "right" that watches only <br>> >>
Fox News, and there is a "left" that reads only the NY Times. The truth
<br>> >> is, that line doesn't really exist as a line. If you
really look at it, <br>> >> the right and left ideologies cover
so much territory that you can't <br>> >> help but agree with a
few concepts "across the line".<br>> >> If we're ever going to
come back together again as a country, we have to <br>> >> throw
that crap out the window. All of us have to do this. Instead of <br>>
>> looking for where we might agree, we're highlighting the
differences.<br>> >><br>> >> Paul<br>>
>><br>> > <br>> <br>> <br>>
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