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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"<FONT face="Times New Roman"><EM>No Weatherman
believed what he wanted about Obama, and marshaled<BR>evidence to support his
belief, when any reasonable person -- any,<BR>reasonable, intellectually honest
person -- operates on the opposite<BR>principle."</EM></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Intellectually honest? That's funny. You can have
absolutely no idea how NW came by his beliefs. For all you know he could have
been OBL's former next door neighbor or ex-girlfriend. He might have been one of
the multitude of down-trodden relatives that periodically pop up. He might have
lived in Chicago and seen first hand and close up what mistake the man would be
as chief executive. He might also have been a person with strong conservative
convictions and a burning desire for smaller government. To make a
statement such as yours is to display a bias at least as great as the one
displayed by NW if not greater.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regardless of how the anonymous poster came by
their convictions they were clearly making an all out, everything but the
kitchen sink effort to sway any undecided potential voter, not an unreasonable
thing to do during an election cycle on a forum where political discussion
frequently occurs. He/she may have gone slightly overboard on one or two
occasions but, all in all, I thought that the info was timely, the place
appropriate, and the time spot on. You certainly can't say that spirited
discussion was not sparked and that is, after all, sort of the point of sites
such as this no matter how much a certain element would prefer a monolithic
liberal echo chamber.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>g</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From: "Chasuk" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:chasuk@gmail.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>chasuk@gmail.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To: "g. crabtree" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>jampot@roadrunner.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Cc: "Joe Campbell" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>philosopher.joe@gmail.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>;
<</FONT><A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>; "Gray Tree
Crab aka Big Bertha" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:gray.treecrab.aka.big.bertha@gmail.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>gray.treecrab.aka.big.bertha@gmail.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 12:15 PM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] love letters or a
desperate cry for attention?</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2>On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 06:00, g. crabtree <</FONT><A
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>jampot@roadrunner.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>
wrote:<BR>> Whose memory needs a tune up?<BR>><BR>> A very small sample
from the November '08 archive. Topics which any<BR>> reasonable person would
have to agree were timely, contained information<BR>> that was pertinent to
the discussion, and were not ad hominem attacks on any<BR>> member of this
forum.<BR>><BR>><BR>> [Vision2020] Murdoch says Obama win could worsen
financial crisis: report<BR>> No Weatherman<BR>> [Vision2020] Obama's New
Attack on Those Who Don't Want Higher Taxes:<BR>> ‘Selfishness’ No
Weatherman<BR>> [Vision2020] Obama aunt from Kenya living in US illegally No
Weatherman<BR>> [Vision2020] Obama says he didn't know aunt's illegal status
— and he still<BR>> has not proven his own “natural born citizen” status No
Weatherman<BR>> [Vision2020] $800,000 to ACORN — $700,000 for stage props:
CHANGE YOU CAN<BR>> BELIEVE IN No Weatherman<BR>> [Vision2020] Has Obama
Overplayed the Race Card? No Weatherman<BR>> [Vision2020] Obama's Hug-a-Thug
Crime Policy No Weatherman<BR>> [Vision2020] crowd boos Obama No
Weatherman<BR>> [Vision2020] Everything You Wanted to Know About the Obama
Online<BR>> Fundraising Scandal in Less Than 5 Minutes! No Weatherman<BR>>
[Vision2020] Obama’s homies (Black Panthers) intimidating whites at the<BR>>
polls No Weatherman<BR><BR>If by timely you mean regurgitated before their
newsworthiness<BR>expired, I might agree. If by pertinent you mean they
had tangential<BR>relation to the discussion, I would agree if there had been
a<BR>discussion, but all I recollect was an info-dump presenting
slightly<BR>shuffled data, again and again and again.<BR><BR>No Weatherman
believed what he wanted about Obama, and marshaled<BR>evidence to support his
belief, when any reasonable person -- any,<BR>reasonable, intellectually honest
person -- operates on the opposite<BR>principle.<BR></FONT></BODY></HTML>