<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Right! I asked the same question when your friend was harrassing the V! Of course, at the time you seemed to think Dr. No's ad hominems were legit! <br><br>Joe Campbell</div><div><br>On Apr 30, 2009, at 5:59 AM, "g. crabtree" <<a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">jampot@roadrunner.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">So why don't you explain for us the argument that
matters in the post in question? That said, I still believe that the sad
and lonely Bertha has the right to do what she does. Eventually she'll meet
someone nice and her obsession with me will wayne.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">g</font></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><b>From:</b>
<a title="philosopher.joe@gmail.com" href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">Joe
Campbell</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="jampot@roadrunner.com" href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">g. crabtree</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="gray.treecrab.aka.big.bertha@gmail.com" href="mailto:gray.treecrab.aka.big.bertha@gmail.com">Gray Tree Crab aka Big
Bertha</a> ; <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com>"><<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>></a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 29, 2009 9:57
PM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] love letters or
a desperate cry for attention?</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Gary: Do you forget your defence of No Whetherman (hah, hah)? I think it
was, Names don't matter, arguments do!<br><br>Joe Campbell</div>
<div><br>On Apr 29, 2009, at 5:46 PM, "g. crabtree" <<a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"><a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">jampot@roadrunner.com</a></a>>
wrote:<br><br></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">My Dearest Bertha, </font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I get that you aren't interested in
contributing to the discussion.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I get that you are not swayed by my suave good
looks and worldly charm.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I get that my powerful intellect and rapier wit
bounce off you seemingly unnoticed.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">In fact, I am coming to believe that
you imagine you don't really care for me at all. (wink,
wink)</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">All of these things I can
understand.</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">What I can't understand is why you are
frightened of me.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">The waifish Ms. Lund delights in spitting
in my eye.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">The diminutive Ms. Mix gleefully reads me the
riot act.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">The delicate Ms. Hovey never hesitates to point
out my failings as she sees them.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">And all of them do it over their very own real
life names.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">What could I have done to scare you into
hiding?</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Many of my most vocal critics on this forum
have actually spoken with me face to face and emerged none the worse for
wear.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">What could I have done to cause you to cower
so?</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">What horror could I have inflicted on you that
leaves you with no recourse but to hurl pitifully weak epithets from
the safe harbor of anonymity?</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Or could it be that you simply yearn to be
noticed? </font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">g</font></div></div>
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<div style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><b>From:</b>
<a title="gray.treecrab.aka.big.bertha@gmail.com" href="mailto:gray.treecrab.aka.big.bertha@gmail.com">Gray Tree Crab aka
Big Bertha</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 29, 2009 7:17
AM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> [Vision2020] Habeas Corpus
at Bagram</div>
<div><br></div><font style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman,serif" size="2">The
village locksmith said:<br><br></font>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><br>"My goodness isn't the nascent little
ambulance chaser cute when he gets all up on his hind legs and brays
about how others should be ashamed?</font></div>
<div><font size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">The reason that I don't "defend torture" is
because that I see no compelling need to. As I've said before, I do
not believe that waterboarding is torture, I do not believe that the
previous administration had a policy promoting the use of torture, and
I don't think that your pretending to be the arbiter of all
that is righteous, pure and holy necessitates my responding to every
idle quack and query that's directed my way. </font></div>
<div><font size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Now how's about you knock it off with the
phony shame routine and save it for closing arguments in kiddy court
alright?"<br><br><font size="2"><br><span style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman,serif">Before anyone criticizes the
lonely locksmith over this only apparently puerile outburst, they need to
understand the pressure he is under.</span><br style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman,serif"><br style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman,serif"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman,serif">His business is so busy that he
is constantly on edge. In fact, it is so busy that he may have to
expand into the next door laundromat. As one of the area's leading
entrepreneurs and entrepreneurial philosophers, he is to be cheered for
his daring and incisive business acumen in these hard times.</span><br style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman,serif"><br style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman,serif"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman,serif">He is our leader. Cut him
some slack if he seems irrational and childish. He is going where
few dare to go.</span><br style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman,serif"><br style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman,serif"></font></font></div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman,serif"><font size="2"></font><br> </div>-- <br>Gray Tree Crab aka "Big Bertha"<br>
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