<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 7:50 PM, g. crabtree <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">jampot@roadrunner.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">"<font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><i>you admit
that torture happened while denying that anyone in particular (even the lawyers
who set the bar at "pain equal to that caused by death;" even the political
figures who compelled them to produce that opinion) is responsible for it.<font size="2" face="Arial">"</font></i></font></font></div>
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</div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">Wrong. I admit that some detainees may have
been mistreated and abused. I do not admit that prisoners were tortured as
an act of administrative policy. Endlessly mischaracterizing my position is not
productive.</font></div></div></blockquote><div><br>How does what you're saying differ from how I characterized it?<br><br>So, what you're saying is that torture occurred, and that the bar for torture was set so high that no act that did not risk death could meet it, but that no one is responsible for it, should be punished for it, and that no one should ever investigate what took place. You have also evaded every last one of my questions as to what you actually believe occurred. You are doing this because you can't find facts to substantiate your version of events. <br>
<br>It's intellectual cowardice that rivals your moral cowardice.<br><br>-- ACS<br> </div></div><br>