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Dereliction of duty? To bring a prosecution like that would be a shameful abuse of authority.<br><br>You don't see the contradiction between what you say in your first sentence and the endorsement of war crimes that follows?<br><br>Sunil <br><br>> Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:42:29 -0700<br>> From: lfalen@turbonet.com<br>> To: bear@moscow.com; vision2020@moscow.com<br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] "Harsh" Interrogations -As ye sow, so shall you reep<br>> <br>> Bear<br>> You are wrong on this.<br>> Because a confession was extracted fron this lady does not mean that she was a spy. What we may have done at GITMO had no bearing on how Iran conducts interrogations. They would use brutal tactics no matter what we do.<br>> As to our security I believe the following:<br>> 1. If an interrogator thinks that there is good reason to believe a detainee has information of an impending attack and does not use what ever means is necessary to obtain that information and <br>> 2 There is a subsequent attack that results in a loss of life.then<br>> 3. Those interrogators should be prosecuted for dereliction of duty. <br>> Former CIA Director Casey said that over 50% of the valid information about al-Quaeda came from detainees and that an attack on L.A was thwarted by information obtained from KSM.<br>> Roger<br>> <br>> -----Original message-----<br>> From: bear@moscow.com<br>> Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 20:50:18 -0700<br>> To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>> Subject: [Vision2020] "Harsh" Interrogations -As ye sow, so shall you reep<br>> <br>> > Well, what we have said is fine, is now coming back to bite us.<br>> > <br>> > American-Iranian journalist Roxana Saberi was sentenced to eight years' jail on Saturday<br>> > after <br>> > being convicted in a secret trial of spying for the United States. Her Iranian-born<br>> > father, Reza <br>> > Saberi, says she may have been tricked into a confession, believing she would be released<br>> > if <br>> > she co-operated with the authorities. He said his daughter was so depressed by her<br>> > sentence - <br>> > the harshest ever given to a dual national on security charges in Iran - that she is<br>> > threatening <br>> > to go on hunger strike.<br>> > <br>> > Will they force feed her like we have force fed the prisoners at Guantánamo Bay Detention <br>> > Camp when they have gone on hunger strikes? IF they do, what makes us think we have a<br>> > right <br>> > to object?<br>> > <br>> > Did they use enhanced interrogation techniques to discover that she was a spy? And<br>> > remember, <br>> > she was arrested for SPYING. If she was in the United States could we have sued enhanced <br>> > interrogation techniques? US Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia said on BBC Radio 4<br>> > that <br>> > since these methods are not intended to punish they do not violate the Eighth Amendment to<br>> > <br>> > the United States Constitution, barring "cruel and unusual punishment", and as such may<br>> > not <br>> > be unconstitutional.<br>> > <br>> > Well, we started this dog fight, now we pay. How do we get back on the moral high ground <br>> > where this kind of behavior from ANY GOVERNMENT is wrong? I believe it starts with the <br>> > indictment and arrest of George W. Bush et al. Or don't they think they'd get a fair<br>> > trial? They <br>> > sure as hell would get better treatment awaiting trial than they gave!<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > ---------------------------------------------<br>> > This message was sent by First Step Internet.<br>> > http://www.fsr.com/<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> <br>> =======================================================<br>> List services made available by First Step Internet, <br>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <br>> http://www.fsr.net <br>> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> =======================================================<br></body>
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