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<DIV>Are you telling me you agree with all the laws of the State of Idaho?</DIV>
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<DIV>But isn't so much the laws I have trouble with, as it is the people that manipulate them for outcomes not favorable to the People of Idaho and the victims in Idaho. </DIV>
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<DIV>Best Regards,</DIV>
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<DIV>Donovan<BR><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 4/17/09, bear@moscow.com <I><bear@moscow.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: bear@moscow.com <bear@moscow.com><BR>Subject: [Vision2020] Not Due Process?<BR>To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com>, "vision 2020" <vision2020@moscow.com>, "Sunil <SPAN>Ramalingam</SPAN>" <sunilramalingam@hotmail.com>, "Tom Hansen" <thansen@moscow.com>, bear@moscow.com<BR>Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 8:39 AM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=plainMail>Donovan,<BR><BR>IF it's not due process, which the laws, Constitutions of Idaho and of the US say it is,<BR>what is it?<BR><BR>And since you are so fond of calling names here on the list, why can't you call them<BR>monsters?<BR>The Constitutions of Idaho and the US allow free speech, but you don't seem to like the<BR>way <BR>they work either!<BR><BR><BR>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>> Sorry, I disagree. <BR>> I do agree with what the Ten Commandments say. But I think lots of people<BR>disagree with what the Ten Commandments intend and imply. <BR>> <BR>> What I think is a crock is their release. The reality is, child<BR>molesters are free, in part, because of the actions of Sunil. You can call it<BR>what ever you want, blame it on anyone else, but that is the reality. <BR>> <BR>> And I would not be calling the release of child
molesters, "due process."<BR>That term is such an injustice to the victims of these people, or shall I<BR>call these child molesters, at the risk of offending some liberals on<BR>here,> monsters. <BR>> <BR>> Best Regards,<BR>> <BR>> Donovan<BR>> <BR>> --- On Fri, 4/17/09, <A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bear@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:bear@moscow.com">bear@moscow.com</A> <<A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bear@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:bear@moscow.com">bear@moscow.com</A>> wrote:<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> From: <A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bear@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:bear@moscow.com">bear@moscow.com</A> <<A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bear@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:bear@moscow.com">bear@moscow.com</A>><BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question<BR>> To: "Donovan Arnold" <<A
href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</A>>, "vision 2020"<BR><vision2> <A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=020@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:020@moscow.com">020@moscow.com</A>>, "Sunil Ramalingam" <<A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" ymailto="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</A>>, "Tom<BR>Han> sen" <<A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=thansen@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A>><BR>> Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 8:11 AM<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Donovan, What a CROCK! <BR>> <BR>> First you don't believe what the Ten Commandments say, and now you don't<BR>li> ke the way the <BR>> law works! IF I read the court documents correctly, there was a JUDGE
that<BR>> released him,<BR>> not <BR>> Sunil! I am sorry that the State of Idaho, as represented by a prosecutor<BR>d> idn't prove<BR>> his/her <BR>> case that the individual was a threat to society. You're pointing the<BR>finge> r in the WRONG <BR>> direction on how the legal system worked in this case!<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ___________________________________________________________________________> <BR>_________________<BR>> > Hansen,<BR>> > <BR>> > Certainly not a lawyer with a forked tongue that misleads people to<BR>dra> w<BR>> > the wrong conclusions and to free child molesters. <BR>> > The child molester can at least claim mental illness for this<BR>endangermen> t<BR>> > of children. But what can Sunil claim? <BR>> > I remember, if my memory serves me correctly, at how angry Hansen was<BR>tha> t<BR>> > our local
child molester of an eight year old girl, was allowed to drive,<BR>> w> ithout supervision, to Lewiston. Guess who was, in part, responsible<BR>f> or<BR>> > his release into the Moscow Public? <BR>> > Best Regards,<BR>> > <BR>> > Donovan <BR>> > <BR>> > --- On Fri, 4/17/09, Tom Hansen <<A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=thansen@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A>> wrote:<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > From: Tom Hansen <<A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=thansen@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A>><BR>> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question<BR>> > To: "Donovan Arnold" <<A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com"
ymailto="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</A>>, "vision 2020"<BR>> <vision2> <A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=020@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:020@moscow.com">020@moscow.com</A>>, "Sunil Ramalingam" <<A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" ymailto="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</A>><BR>> > Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 7:47 AM<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Is that true, Sunil?<BR>> > <BR>> > Are you, in fact, INTENTIONALLY being a lawyer?<BR>> > <BR>> > Tell us, arnold, what are you intentiionally being?<BR>> > <BR>> > Tommy Handson<BR>> > <BR>> > > Sunil<BR>> > > <BR>> > > I thought you might just honestly be confused, but now I know are<BR>> > int> entionally being a lawyer. <BR>> >
> <BR>> > > Best Regards,<BR>> > > <BR>> > > Donovan<BR>> > > <BR>> > > --- On Fri, 4/17/09, Sunil Ramalingam <<A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" ymailto="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</A>> <BR>> > wrote:<BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > From: Sunil Ramalingam <<A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" ymailto="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</A>><BR>> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question<BR>> > > To: "vision 2020" <<A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>><BR>> > > Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 7:01 AM<BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>>
> > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > #yiv1986942131 .hmmessage P<BR>> > > {<BR>> > > margin:0px;padding:0px;}<BR>> > > #yiv1986942131 {<BR>> > > font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;}<BR>> > > <BR>> > > Oh, I've read it several times. It doesn't make your case.<BR>> > > <BR>> > > Sunil<BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 06:49:17 -0700<BR>> > > From: <A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</A><BR>> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question<BR>> > > To: <A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>; <A
href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" ymailto="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</A><BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > Sunil,<BR>> > > <BR>> > > Are you aware that a post preceded this post?:First, the Ten<BR>Commandant> s<BR>> > sa> y to "Love your Neighbor". Do you disagree?<BR>> > > <BR>> > > <A href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2009-April/062917.html" target=_blank>http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2009-April/062917.html</A><BR>> > > <BR>> > > I don't think you are. I think you think this was the start of the<BR>> > conversa> tion. And that you are unaware that this is the response to<BR>a> <BR>> > question,<BR>> > not> the start of a new
conversation. <BR>> > > <BR>> > > Read the post before this one that you quoted, Then get back to me. <BR>> > > <BR>> > > Best Regards,<BR>> > > <BR>> > > Donovan<BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > --- On Thu, 4/16/09, Sunil Ramalingam <<A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" ymailto="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</A>> <BR>> > wrote:<BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > From: Sunil Ramalingam <<A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" ymailto="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</A>><BR>> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question<BR>> > > To: "vision 2020" <<A
href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>><BR>> > > Date: Thursday, April 16, 2009, 5:48 PM<BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > #yiv1986942131 .ExternalClass #EC_yiv1035337694 .EC_hmmessage P<BR>> > > {padding:0px;}<BR>> > > #yiv1986942131 .ExternalClass #EC_yiv1035337694<BR>> > > {font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;}<BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > #yiv1986942131 .ExternalClass #EC_yiv1035337694 .EC_hmmessage P<BR>> > > {padding:0px;}<BR>> > > #yiv1986942131 .ExternalClass #EC_yiv1035337694<BR>> > > {font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;}<BR>> > > <BR>> > > Here is your post in which you said <BR>> > > First, the Ten Commandants say to "Love your Neighbor". Do
you<BR>disagree> ?<BR>> > > <A href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2009-April/062917.html" target=_blank>http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2009-April/062917.html</A><BR>> > > <BR>> > > As you, or at least any honest person, can see, you then go on to try<BR>t> o<BR>> > pr> ove your point by quoting Jesus. But what Jesus said was not<BR>on> e<BR>> > of<BR>> > t> he Ten Commandments.<BR>> > > <BR>> > > You never said 'The Ten Commandments, as I interpret them, or claim<BR>> > Catholi> c doctrine interprets them, say "Love your Neighbor." <BR>> > > <BR>> > > Here is Wayne's (Bear's) post in which he disagreed with you and<BR>asked> <BR>> > you<BR>> > > which commandment said that.<BR>> > > <BR>> > > <A href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2009-April/062919.html"
target=_blank>http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2009-April/062919.html</A><BR>> > > <BR>> > > Hey look, I'm able to substantiate what I said! That puts me way ahead<BR>> of<BR>> > y> ou, Mr. Burning Pants.<BR>> > > <BR>> > > Sunil<BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 17:02:54 -0700<BR>> > > From: <A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</A><BR>> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question<BR>> > > To: <A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>; <A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sunilramalingam@hotmail.com"
ymailto="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</A><BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > Sunil,<BR>> > > <BR>> > > Please quote what you believe to be the original question, and point to<BR>> > whe> re Wayne references the term Ten Commandments in it.<BR>> > > <BR>> > > Your inability to do so, I believe, will show any dishonesty. <BR>> > > <BR>> > > "Donovan has taken Jesus' statement and tried to pretend it's one of<BR>th> e<BR>> > Te> n Commandments."<BR>> > > <BR>> > > I am not pretending, that is your job, not mine. I have<BR>> > to actually pro> duce something.besides twisty words. <BR>> > > <BR>> > > According to the Catholic Church, the Ten Commandments
do encompass<BR>> > Lovin> g God and Loving thy Neighbor. I tried to explain that by<BR>quoting> <BR>> > Jesus<BR>> > fro> m Matthew and providing a link to Wikipedia that explains it. <BR>> > > <BR>> > > If you want to reject the Catholic interpretation of the Ten<BR>Commandant> s,<BR>> > o> r the Teachings of Christ, that is your choice. But I am not <BR>> > pretending. I<BR>> > > have reason to do so. <BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > Best Regards,<BR>> > > <BR>> > > Donovan<BR>> > > <BR>> > > --- On Thu, 4/16/09, Sunil Ramalingam <<A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" ymailto="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</A>> <BR>> > wrote:<BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > From:
Sunil Ramalingam <<A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" ymailto="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</A>><BR>> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question<BR>> > > To: "vision 2020" <<A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>><BR>> > > Date: Thursday, April 16, 2009, 9:00 AM<BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > #yiv1986942131 .ExternalClass #EC_yiv1035337694 .EC_ExternalClass<BR>> > #EC_EC_yi> v1089792529 .EC_EC_hmmessage P<BR>> > > {padding:0px;}<BR>> > > #yiv1986942131 .ExternalClass #EC_yiv1035337694 .EC_ExternalClass<BR>> > #EC_EC_yi> v1089792529<BR>> > > {font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;}<BR>> > > <BR>> >
> I've looked at the thread, and Wayne's account below is absolutely <BR>> > correct.<BR>> > > <BR>> > > An honest person will be able to acknowledge that. <BR>> > > <BR>> > > Donovan has taken Jesus' statement and tried to pretend it's one of the<BR>> > Ten> Commandments. <BR>> > > <BR>> > > Sunil<BR>> > > <BR>> > > > To: <A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</A>; <A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" ymailto="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</A>;<BR>> > vision2020> @moscow.com<BR>> > > > From: <A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bear@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:bear@moscow.com">bear@moscow.com</A><BR>> > > >
Subject: BACK to the Original Question<BR>> > > > Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 15:19:42 +0000<BR>> > > > <BR>> > > > Donovan,<BR>> > > > <BR>> > > > YOU wrote: "First, the Ten Commandants say to "Love your Neighbor".<BR>D> o<BR>> > yo> u disagree?"<BR>> > > > <BR>> > > > And YES, I do disagree. NO WHERE in the Ten Commandments does it say<BR>> > that> ! And you have <BR>> > > > offered no reasonably accepted answer to back up your spurious claim<BR>> > that> it is the TEN <BR>> > > > COMMANDMENTS.<BR>> > > > <BR>> > > > And not only did you misquote me, but you took the discussion <BR>> > completely<BR>> > > out of context!<BR>> > > > <BR>> > > > MY words, the way I wrote them and the way they are on Vision 2020 <BR>> > are:"<BR>> > > You
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