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<DIV>None of the OT 10 commandments directly say "love thy neighbor." But, I think it is part of the First Commandment. I may be wrong. But I think Loving God and your neighbor, is. That is what I was taught in CCD and at Sunshine Summer, and from my conversations with my Priest. Love thy neighbor, and love God, the most important, and the first commandment. </DIV>
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<DIV>I do see your argument that it doesn't directly spell it out in any commandments. But in the Catechism it does, and that is what I look at for explanations as the meaning of things in the Bible. I don't read the KJV of the Bible, I don't think it works like that. Catholics don't really read the Bible and interpret. It is done for us by Bible Scholars and put into context for us. I don't think anyone on the V is really able to explain or understand the Bible enough to argue it successfully. </DIV>
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<DIV>No, I certainly am not a shining example of loving my neighbor. Especially lawyers. I think everyone that knows me, knows that I loathe lawyers. Especially ones that free child molesters and are intentionally dishonest. </DIV>
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<DIV>Best Regards,</DIV>
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<DIV>Donovan</DIV>
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<DIV><BR><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 4/17/09, bear@moscow.com <I><bear@moscow.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: bear@moscow.com <bear@moscow.com><BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question<BR>To: donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com, "<SPAN>Sunil</SPAN> <SPAN>Ramalingam</SPAN>" <sunilramalingam@hotmail.com>, "vision 2020" <vision2020@moscow.com><BR>Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 7:53 AM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=plainMail>Donovan, and Visionaries,<BR><BR>Donovan you're wrong and just wiggling now. I'll get you off the hook and ask a straight <BR>forward question:<BR><BR>YOU stated, "First, the Ten Commandants say to "Love your Neighbor". Simple question,<BR>WHICH <BR>ONE of the TEN COMMANDMENTS says that?<BR><BR>If you can't answer it, it ends this discussion of which you are so ill equipped to<BR>participate in.<BR><BR>And I love how YOU demonstrate how YOU love your neighbors by verbally abusing Sunil and <BR>calling him names! A great example! <BR>------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <BR>> Oh, I've read it several times. It doesn't make your case.<BR>> <BR>> Sunil<BR>> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 06:49:17 -0700<BR>> From: <A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</A><BR>>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question<BR>> To: <A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>; <A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" ymailto="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</A><BR>> <BR>> Sunil,<BR>> <BR>> Are you aware that a post preceded this post?:First, the Ten Commandants<BR>> say to "Love your Neighbor". Do you disagree?<BR>> <BR>> <A href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2009-April/062917.html" target=_blank>http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2009-April/062917.html</A><BR>> <BR>> I don't think you are. I think you think this was the start of the<BR>conversa> tion. And that you are unaware that this is the response to a question,<BR>n> ot the start of a new conversation. <BR>> <BR>>
Read the post before this one that you quoted, Then get back to me. <BR>> <BR>> Best Regards,<BR>> <BR>> Donovan<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> --- On Thu, 4/16/09, Sunil Ramalingam <<A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" ymailto="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</A>><BR>wro> te:<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> From: Sunil Ramalingam <<A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" ymailto="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</A>><BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question<BR>> To: "vision 2020" <<A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>><BR>> Date: Thursday, April 16, 2009, 5:48 PM<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> Here is your post in which you said <BR>> First, the Ten Commandants say to "Love your Neighbor". Do you disagree?<BR>> <A href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2009-April/062917.html" target=_blank>http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2009-April/062917.html</A><BR>> <BR>> As you, or at least any honest person, can see, you then go on to<BR>try> to prove your point by quoting Jesus. But what Jesus said was not one<BR>of> the Ten Commandments.<BR>> <BR>> You never said 'The Ten Commandments, as I interpret them, or claim<BR>Cat> holic doctrine interprets them, say "Love your Neighbor." <BR>> <BR>> Here is Wayne's (Bear's) post in which he disagreed with you and asked you<BR>> which commandment said that.<BR>> <BR>> <A href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2009-April/062919.html"
target=_blank>http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2009-April/062919.html</A><BR>> <BR>> Hey look, I'm able to substantiate what I said! That puts me way ahead<BR>of> you, Mr. Burning Pants.<BR>> <BR>> Sunil<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 17:02:54 -0700<BR>> From: <A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</A><BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question<BR>> To: <A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>; <A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" ymailto="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</A><BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Sunil,<BR>> <BR>> Please
quote what you believe to be the original question, and point to<BR>w> here Wayne references the term Ten Commandments in it.<BR>> <BR>> Your inability to do so, I believe, will show any dishonesty. <BR>> <BR>> "Donovan has taken Jesus' statement and tried to pretend it's one of the<BR>Te> n Commandments."<BR>> <BR>> I am not pretending, that is your job, not mine. I have to actually<BR>pro> duce something.besides twisty words. <BR>> <BR>> According to the Catholic Church, the Ten Commandments do encompass<BR>Lovin> g God and Loving thy Neighbor. I tried to explain that by quoting Jesus<BR>fro> m Matthew and providing a link to Wikipedia that explains it. <BR>> <BR>> If you want to reject the Catholic interpretation of the Ten<BR>Commandants,> or the Teachings of Christ, that is your choice. But I am not<BR>pretending> .. I have reason to do so.
<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Best Regards,<BR>> <BR>> Donovan<BR>> <BR>> --- On Thu, 4/16/09, Sunil Ramalingam <<A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" ymailto="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</A>><BR>wro> te:<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> From: Sunil Ramalingam <<A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" ymailto="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</A>><BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question<BR>> To: "vision 2020" <<A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>><BR>> Date: Thursday, April 16, 2009, 9:00 AM<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> I've looked at the thread, and Wayne's account below is absolutely<BR>correc>
t.<BR>> <BR>> An honest person will be able to acknowledge that. <BR>> <BR>> Donovan has taken Jesus' statement and tried to pretend it's one of the<BR>Ten> Commandments. <BR>> <BR>> Sunil<BR>> <BR>> > To: <A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</A>; <A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" ymailto="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</A>;<BR>vision> <A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=2020@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:2020@moscow.com">2020@moscow.com</A><BR>> > From: <A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bear@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:bear@moscow.com">bear@moscow.com</A><BR>> > Subject: BACK to the Original Question<BR>> > Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 15:19:42 +0000<BR>> >
<BR>> > Donovan,<BR>> > <BR>> > YOU wrote: "First, the Ten Commandants say to "Love your Neighbor". Do<BR>> you disagree?"<BR>> > <BR>> > And YES, I do disagree. NO WHERE in the Ten Commandments does it say<BR>th> at! And you have <BR>> > offered no reasonably accepted answer to back up your spurious claim<BR>that> it is the TEN <BR>> > COMMANDMENTS.<BR>> > <BR>> > And not only did you misquote me, but you took the discussion<BR>completel> y out of context!<BR>> > <BR>> > MY words, the way I wrote<BR>> them and the way they are on Vision 2020 are:" You state below<BR>> > that <BR>> > 'God says to love your neighbor, not sell and abuse them', where? In<BR>> the Bible?"<BR>> > <BR>> > So before you call Sunil a snake and accuse him of slithering, answer<BR>t> he original<BR>> > question, WHERE <BR>> > in the bible does it
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