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<DIV>Saundra,</DIV>
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<DIV>I think you are being dishonest. If your read the thread, you would know that Wayne asked me where in the Bible slavery and torture was condemned, not the Ten Commandments. </DIV>
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<DIV>I will redo your corrupted time line and censored quotes::</DIV>
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<DIV>Date: Monday, April 13, 2009, 4:16 PM Wayne Asked:<BR> </DIV>
<DIV>"Donovan, You state below that "God says to love your neighbor, not sell and abuse them", where? In the Bible? You can't use the Bible where it supports your position and then say it's bunk when it doesn't!"</DIV>
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<DIV>NOTICE: NO mention of the TEN COMMANDMENTS, NONE, He asks where in the <STRONG><EM><U>BIBLE</U></EM></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#1f497d>4/13/2009 4:47 PM Donovan Responded:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Bear,<BR></DIV>
<DIV>"First, the Ten Commandants say to "Love your Neighbor". Do you disagree?"</DIV>
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<DIV>(This is a separate thought) And,</DIV>
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<DIV>"You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the greatest and first commandment. And a second is like it:You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the<BR>prophets.--Matthew 22:34-40<BR> <BR>Second, Are you arguing that selling someone into slavery and abusing<BR>them is not contrary to this law?"</DIV>
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<DIV>It is clear, if you start with the original post it did not include the Ten Commandments. A simple demand of where in the Bible. I responded to include BOTH the OT and New Testaments where Slavery and Abuse was was condemned. </DIV>
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<DIV>Don't start in the middle of the conversation and exclude portions of my response, it is dishonest, and clearly changes the context of the post. </DIV>
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<DIV>You can disagree all you want about if the Ten Commandants include loving thy neighbor or not, it does to me, as that is what I was taught the First commandment to mean by my religious upbringing, That might not be the case for yours. But I was originally asked, WHERE in the Bible, so I included the New also. </DIV>
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<DIV>Best Regards,</DIV>
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<DIV>Donovan<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#1f497d></FONT> <BR>--- On <B>Thu, 4/16/09, Saundra Lund <I><sslund_2007@verizon.net></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Saundra <SPAN><SPAN><SPAN>Lund</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> <sslund_2007@verizon.net><BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] 8 year old girl denied divorce<BR>To: "'<SPAN>Sunil</SPAN> Ramalingam'" <sunilramalingam@hotmail.com>, "'vision 2020'" <vision2020@moscow.com><BR>Date: Thursday, April 16, 2009, 10:38 AM<BR><BR>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'">Sunil wrote:</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'">“</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'">I invite anyone who agrees with Donovan's version of events to chime in and correct me.”</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'"></SPAN></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'">I’ve noticed the deafening silence from anyone other than Donovan.</SPAN></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'">I know it’s been tried before, but I’ll try again:</SPAN></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'">Donovan: “</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'">Bear, First, the Ten Commandants say to "Love your Neighbor". Do you disagree?” 4/13/2009 4:47 PM</SPAN></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'">To which Bear responds: “I'm afraid I DO disagree, which commandment says that?” 4/13/2009 5:05 PM</SPAN></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'">It really is that simple, no matter how the discussion has been spun since.</SPAN></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'">Sunil also wrote:</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'">“</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'">I don't know why you can't say, "My mistake," instead of inventing things that other people never said.”</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'"></SPAN></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'">I don’t know, either – the ability to give and receive sincere apologies is something best learned as a child, but it can be learned at any age, so there’s still hope for Donovan yet. Perhaps, though, he’s just having trouble keeping the conversations between the various participants straight?</SPAN></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'">Donovan wrote:</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'">“</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'">This isn't a vote on who likes Donovan over Sunil. Which none of these liberals on the V is going to publicly do, and you know that, even if they agreed with me privately. You know, that this is another reason why I think you are such a slithery snake as are most lawyers, if they cannot win on the obviously black and white facts, they revert to an emotional appeal.”</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'"></SPAN></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'">Sorry, Donovan – the facts above dispute your retelling. And, what “emotional appeal” of Sunil’s are you referring to because I missed it.</SPAN></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'">For the record, I like both Donovan & Sunil in person; it’s the email Donovan who can be . . . challenging </SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings">J</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'"></SPAN></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'">Saundra Lund</SPAN></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'">The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing.</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'">~ Edmund Burke</SPAN></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'">***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2009 through life plus 70 years, Saundra Lund. Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside the Vision 2020 forum without the express written permission of the author.*****</SPAN></B></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma', 'sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma', 'sans-serif'"> vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Sunil Ramalingam<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 15, 2009 5:50 PM<BR><B>To:</B> vision 2020<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] 8 year old girl denied divorce</SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'">I invite anyone who agrees with Donovan's version of events to chime in and correct me.<BR><BR>Sunil</SPAN></DIV>
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