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<DIV>You are incorrect that the UI cannot charge tuition. It can and does. It just cannot charge tuition on resident students because the taxpayers already pay for that tuition. This bill will only allows for double charging of local and state residents. They are taxed for the UI, and are now charged again in tuition. Is it fair that Idaho resident pay for tuition and the students pay their tuition too? I don't think so. </DIV>
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<DIV>The student fees, versus being charged tuition is also a badly needed protection for the students, because it limits student fee increases to just 10%. If UI is allowed to charge whatever it wants from year to year in tution, it may prevent students from being able to finish their degrees. At a 10% annual cap, they can better predict and plan for total costs of their education of the four to six years it takes to complete the degree. With no cap, many waste money and time on an unfinishable goal. </DIV>
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<DIV>Second, it also forces the UI to spend the fee increases under the students control and student related programs. Tution hikes, instead of student fee hikes, takes the legal control of the money out of the hands of the students, and entirely under the control of the UI Adminstration. A serious blow to students controling their own destinies and having a bargining chip with the UI administration, pretty much their only control. </DIV>
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<DIV>UI has, until recently, taken 15% of the state budget. So I think it has been adequently funded to accomplish its intended purpose. The UI will never have enough money to do all that it wants to do. </DIV>
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<DIV>I disagree that UI should not have four unversitities. Each university has a different focus and mission, and serves a different constituency. UI is a land grant and research univeristy. Which makes it different, and it needs to be where it is. LCSC is a job training focused school. BSU is where 60% of the population is located and is badly needed to keep the strong economy in the Treasure Valley which supports UI. Idaho State University is needed because BSU, UI, and LCSC are simply too far away. They should have access to an education system they support.</DIV>
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<DIV>I do agree that the four universities could do a better job in combining resources, and should not replicate services. We do not need a UI in Boise, or BSU in CDA. One state university per area is fine. </DIV>
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<DIV>Best Regards,</DIV>
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<DIV><BR><BR>--- On <B>Wed, 4/8/09, bear@moscow.com <I><bear@moscow.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: bear@moscow.com <bear@moscow.com><BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] SJR 101 passes Idaho House<BR>To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com>, vision2020@moscow.com, "JLBrown" <jlbrown@turbonet.com><BR>Date: Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 3:13 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=plainMail>Donovan,<BR><BR>While I am opposed to this particular amendment to the state constitution, my opposition<BR>is not <BR>to tuition! The University of Idaho, since it's inception has not been allowed to charge<BR>tuition <BR>because of the state constitution, and for as long as I can remember has never gotten<BR>enough <BR>funding from the legislature for one reason or another. When the University had to resort<BR>to <BR>charging "Fees", which is allowed, it was a game of smoke and mirrors, and what this<BR>particular <BR>legislation does is finally call a spade a spade, and brings much needed funds into the <BR>University primarily for wages.<BR><BR>Now, what we SERIOUSLY need to look into is can a state, the size of Idaho afford four 4<BR>year <BR>colleges/universities? We have a million and a half people in the state. We are ranked<BR>44th in <BR>population, can we afford to sustain four University systems? Yes, I know the
geography<BR>and <BR>population distribution easily lends itself to having four, but can we afford it? Lets be<BR>honest, <BR>is there any reason on God's green earth why two of the four 4 year schools are 30 miles <BR>apart? What would cost less, a means of getting students up here from Lewiston or<BR>maintaining <BR>LCSC for a year?<BR><BR><BR>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>> I wish somebody would oppose this bill. The idea of raping Idaho students<BR>f> rom what little money they have left to get a college education is<BR>wro> ng. <BR>>  <BR>> Out of state and out of country students are already charged tuition. This<BR>> bill only allows the UI to charge local and state resident students<BR>tuition> .. It will allow UI to rack up the debt even further on our own local<BR>s> tudents making UI only affordable to people outside of Idaho, not
the<BR>taxpa> yers that support the UI. We will subsidizing the education of more out of<BR>> state students at the expense of our local ones. <BR>>  <BR>> It is going to take me over 20 years to pay off my student loans because I<BR>> work and live in Idaho. If I had to pay an addition $2000 a year in<BR>tuition> at UI, I would have in no way been able to afford to go. <BR>>  <BR>> This is a worthless bill, unless you want to hurt the right of local<BR>studen> ts to get a quality education. <BR>>  <BR>> I believe that the original poster is incorrect in their assumption that<BR>mo> ney will appear in the hands of Idahoans simply because UI has<BR>th> e ability to charge them more. <BR>>  <BR>> Best Regards,<BR>>  <BR>> Donovan <BR>> <BR>> --- On Wed, 4/8/09, JLBrown <<A
href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jlbrown@turbonet.com" ymailto="mailto:jlbrown@turbonet.com">jlbrown@turbonet.com</A>> wrote:<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> From: JLBrown <<A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jlbrown@turbonet.com" ymailto="mailto:jlbrown@turbonet.com">jlbrown@turbonet.com</A>><BR>> Subject: [Vision2020] SJR 101 passes Idaho House<BR>> To: <A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR>> Date: Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 11:15 AM<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Visionaries,<BR>> Â <BR>> Minutes ago the Idaho House overwhelmingly passed SJR 101, allowing the<BR>Uni> versity of Idaho to formally charge tuition (instead of having to<BR>euphemist> ically call them fees).<BR>> Â <BR>> Rep. Shirley Ringo spoke eloquently on
behalf of the University of Idaho<BR>an> d the need to level the playing field between the U of I and the<BR>stateâ> €™s other institutions of higher education.<BR>>  <BR>> Even Rep. Grant Burgoyne, a freshman Democrat from Boise and U of I alum<BR>wh> o opposed the measure, spoke at length in support of the U of I and of the<BR>> contribution of higher education to the state’s economic<BR>developmen> t.<BR>>  <BR>> Not a peep from Rep. Tom Trail in support of the institution that is the<BR>ec> onomic lifeblood of our community.<BR>>  <BR>> Judy Brown<BR>> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> =========================> =========================> =====<BR>> List services made available by First Step Internet, <BR>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.   <BR>>     Â
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