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Donovan's trying to make a positive image on the list..........really?<BR> <BR>Kai, that coin sounds pretty cool. Was it too late to point it out to the owner when you noticed it? Like counting out the till at the end of the day or something? Wonder if it was an anonymous gift?<BR> <BR>I have a few steel pennies from the War, a wierd uncirculated golden colored dime and a penny from 1835 and 1856.<BR> <BR>Unrelated I guess, but here's a conversation piece. When we moved here and were staying in a hotel for a month in Pullman, I took the dogs for a stroll past the duck ponds and found an overgrown trail in the back corner. Well, about a 100yards or less I came to a little fenced in graveyard that had only about 10 or so tall old gravestones in overgrown weeds and roses. <BR> <BR>One read "Isaac Newton" so I naturally thought....."WOW!! I've
discovered the grave of Isaac Newton!" "I can't wait to get back to the hotel and google the years."<BR> <BR>Turned out I was 100 years off or something. Apparently folks named their kids after celebrities of the day. <BR> <BR>Anyone here know anything about the Pullman, Washington Isaac Newton?<BR> <BR>Sorry for the grainy pics attached, These were taken with a little voice recorder/camera.<BR> <BR>Don<BR><BR><BR><BR> <BR>> From: vision2020-request@moscow.com<BR>> Subject: Vision2020 Digest, Vol 34, Issue 51<BR>> To: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:05:21 -0700<BR>> <BR>> Send Vision2020 mailing list submissions to<BR>> vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> <BR>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<BR>> http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/vision2020<BR>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<BR>>
vision2020-request@moscow.com<BR>> <BR>> You can reach the person managing the list at<BR>> vision2020-owner@moscow.com<BR>> <BR>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<BR>> than "Re: Contents of Vision2020 digest..."<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Today's Topics:<BR>> <BR>> 1. Re: National Service? (Tom Hansen)<BR>> 2. Re: Six gay men shot to death in Iraq (keely emerinemix)<BR>> 3. Re: [Spam] PUBLIC MEETING UPPER LOCHSA LAND EXCHANGE (lfalen)<BR>> 4. Re: Six gay men shot to death in Iraq (Donovan Arnold)<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> Message: 1<BR>> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:19:03 GMT<BR>> From: Tom Hansen <thansen@moscow.com><BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] National Service?<BR>> To: <bear@moscow.com>, Tom Hansen <thansen@moscow.com>,<BR>> vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> Message-ID:
<200904071519.n37FJ5jo097242@mail-gw.fsr.net><BR>> <BR>> To a degree I agree with you, Bear.<BR>> <BR>> Along with benefits comes responsibility, obligation, and accountability.<BR>> <BR>> Too often people are willing to accept the benefits without any concern <BR>> for their neighbors.<BR>> <BR>> As much as I would like to see everybody walk that extra mile, I simply do <BR>> not feel it should be required.<BR>> <BR>> True loyalty and commitment is reflected in the manner in which a person <BR>> responds to the simple question "Why are you here?" To those who <BR>> respond, "Because I was told to" I have no faith. To those who <BR>> respond, "Because I want to" I owe my gratitude.<BR>> <BR>> Tom Hansen<BR>> Moscow, Idaho<BR>> <BR>> > Tom,<BR>> > <BR>> > I've read the Bill, and it's not a bad idea, but it doesn't go far <BR>> enough. Everyone in<BR>> > America
<BR>> > today runs around talking about "rights", but with every right, there <BR>> is, or should be a <BR>> > "responsibility". Where is the responsibility to the nation for most of <BR>> America today?<BR>> > <BR>> > I'm in favor of national service, and especially in hard economic times, <BR>> it makes sense.<BR>> > What is <BR>> > wrong with requiring some kind of national service? It doesn't have to <BR>> be in the military,<BR>> <BR>> > but <BR>> > there are many many ways it could be accomplished, and there would have <BR>> to be some type of<BR>> <BR>> > <BR>> > non-discrimination clause in it, and what I mean by that is "everyone" <BR>> goes. No exemptions<BR>> <BR>> > of <BR>> > any kind to include gender, religion,race or orientation. <BR>> > <BR>> > There could be a national construction organization, national health, <BR>>
national<BR>> > administration, <BR>> > national education and of course the military. In other words, no more <BR>> free rides. The <BR>> > universities and civil service at all levels would no longer be staffed <BR>> by people that<BR>> > have a <BR>> > secure niche that they settled into while others were out serving their <BR>> nation in one way<BR>> > or <BR>> > another. Now, that doesn't necessarily mean that they wouldn't be <BR>> involved in foreign<BR>> > service in <BR>> > support of national policies. We are spending hundreds of thousands of <BR>> dollar right now<BR>> > for <BR>> > everything from electricians to police officers, to cooks, for <BR>> contractors overseas.<BR>> > These <BR>> > positions could be filled by national service personnel.<BR>> > <BR>> > I was really amazed when I actually looked at the backgrounds of people
<BR>> getting the "good <BR>> <BR>> > jobs" in government, and what their "service" backgrounds are. Take a <BR>> look at the Board of<BR>> <BR>> > <BR>> > Education/Regents, how many served? And if you think that number is low, <BR>> take a look at<BR>> > both <BR>> > the faculty and higher administrators at the University! From what I've <BR>> seen, non of the <BR>> <BR>> > candidates for the presidents job at the University are veterans or have <BR>> they done any<BR>> > type of <BR>> > national service, but it's not a suprise because the people selecting <BR>> them for those<BR>> > position <BR>> > haven't served either! <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Comments?<BR>> > <BR>> ___________________________________________________________________________<BR>> ____________<BR>> > > "I believe that there is a very strong chance that we will
see that <BR>> young <BR>> > > people will be put into mandatory service. And the real concern is <BR>> that <BR>> > > there are provisions for what I would call re-education camps for <BR>> young <BR>> > > people..."<BR>> > > <BR>> > > - Rep. Michelle Bachmann (R-Minn), on the Edward M. Kennedy Serve <BR>> America <BR>> > > Act<BR>> > > <BR>> > > -------------<BR>> > > <BR>> > > The Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act<BR>> > > http://edlabor.house.gov/blog/2009/03/the-edward-m-kennedy-serve-<BR>> ame.shtml<BR>> > > <BR>> > > Nope. No re-education camps or forced labor.<BR>> > > <BR>> > > Seeya round town, Moscow.<BR>> > > <BR>> > > Tom Hansen<BR>> > > Moscow, Idaho<BR>> > > <BR>> > > Join us at The First Annual Intolerista Wingding, April 17th, <BR>>
featuring <BR>> > > Roy Zimmerman and Jeanne McHale. For details go to . . .<BR>> > > <BR>> > > http://www.MoscowCares.com/Wingding<BR>> > > <BR>> > > Seeya<BR>> > > there.<BR>> > > <BR>> > > ---------------------------------------------<BR>> > > This message was sent by First Step Internet.<BR>> > > http://www.fsr.com/<BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > =======================================================<BR>> > > List services made available by First Step Internet, <BR>> > > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <BR>> > > http://www.fsr.net <BR>> > > mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> > > =======================================================<BR>> > > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >
---------------------------------------------<BR>> > This message was sent by First Step Internet.<BR>> > http://www.fsr.com/<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Join us at The First Annual Intolerista Wingding, April 17th, featuring <BR>> Roy Zimmerman and Jeanne McHale. For details go to . . .<BR>> <BR>> http://www.MoscowCares.com/Wingding<BR>> <BR>> Seeya<BR>> there.<BR>> <BR>> ---------------------------------------------<BR>> This message was sent by First Step Internet.<BR>> http://www.fsr.com/<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> Message: 2<BR>> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:15:09 -0700<BR>> From: keely emerinemix <kjajmix1@msn.com><BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Six gay men shot to death in Iraq<BR>> To: <donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com>, <vision2020@moscow.com>,<BR>> <nielsen@uidaho.edu><BR>>
Message-ID: <COL105-W7767954507D03A3430783282850@phx.gbl><BR>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Donovan, why do you call Ralph "puke"? It is offensive.<BR>> <BR>> While I don't like seeing, for example, "X-mas" on winter holiday cards, I don't think that "Xians" is society's attempt to malign Christians. It might, honestly, be Ralph's, but why confirm what I imagine is his conclusion that modern Christiandom looks so little like Christ?<BR>> <BR>> Keely<BR>> http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:12:02 -0700<BR>> From: donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com<BR>> To: Vision2020@moscow.com; nielsen@uidaho.edu<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Six gay men shot to death in Iraq<BR>> <BR>> Puke,<BR>> <BR>> Why do you use the term "Xians"? It is offensive.<BR>> <BR>> Best Regards.<BR>> <BR>>
Donovan<BR>> <BR>> --- On Mon, 4/6/09, Ralph Nielsen <nielsen@uidaho.edu> wrote:<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> From: Ralph Nielsen <nielsen@uidaho.edu><BR>> Subject: [Vision2020] Six gay men shot to death in Iraq<BR>> To: "vision 2020" <Vision2020@moscow.com><BR>> Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 11:04 AM<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> To everybody,<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Don't forget that the Nazis hated gays just as much as Jews. They sent both groups to concentration and extermination camps.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> And both groups are condemned in the New Testament. Some Xians love that fact.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Ralph<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Paul,<BR>> <BR>> That is only because you know it is true! Gays and woman can be shot, beheaded, and burned alive, and you defend those governments and societies and think we should send them money and support. <BR>> <BR>> What is the
difference between what Nazis did to Jews, and what these men are doing to woman and gays? <BR>> <BR>> Best Regards,<BR>> <BR>> Donovan<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> =======================================================<BR>> List services made available by First Step Internet, <BR>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <BR>> http://www.fsr.net <BR>> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> =======================================================<BR>> <BR>> _________________________________________________________________<BR>> Rediscover Hotmail?: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. <BR>> http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Updates1_042009<BR>> -------------- next part --------------<BR>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>> URL:
http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/attachments/20090407/3a766e30/attachment-0001.html <BR>> <BR>> ------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> Message: 3<BR>> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:00:55 -0700<BR>> From: lfalen <lfalen@turbonet.com><BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [Spam] PUBLIC MEETING UPPER LOCHSA LAND<BR>> EXCHANGE<BR>> To: "Tom Hansen" <thansen@moscow.com>, vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> Message-ID: <45604ec6ca417f5cb8bf90a179e2bc45@turbonet.com><BR>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<BR>> <BR>> A lot of land trades make sence, such as an isolated piece of federal land surrounded by private property. This one does not meet that criteria. This would be a bad deal and I would erge people to go and voice their oposition. Due to other commitments I will be unable to attend.<BR>> Roger<BR>> -----Original message-----<BR>> From: Tom Hansen thansen@moscow.com<BR>> Date: Mon,
06 Apr 2009 11:23:18 -0700<BR>> To: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> Subject: [Spam] [Vision2020] PUBLIC MEETING UPPER LOCHSA LAND EXCHANGE<BR>> <BR>> > PUBLIC MEETING UPPER LOCHSA LAND EXCHANGE <BR>> > Wednesday April 8th, 5-7 PM<BR>> > <BR>> > Moscow Job Service Conference Room<BR>> > 1350 Troy Rd. Moscow, Id. <BR>> > (Behind the old Sears building)<BR>> > <BR>> > "Chance to comment on upper Lochsa Land Exchange with Western Pacific <BR>> > Timber Co."<BR>> > <BR>> > TALKING POINTS TO CONSIDER ON A TRADE BETWEEN THE PEOPLE?S LAND AND A <BR>> > PRIVATE DEVELOPER:<BR>> > <BR>> > 1). All national forest lands are owned by the American people<BR>> > <BR>> > 2). The owners most affected by this trade are people who live in the <BR>> > counties where national forests are to be traded.<BR>> > <BR>> > 3). The Forest Service works for We the
People and is hired by our taxes <BR>> > to manage the national forests, not make unacceptable trades to private <BR>> > developers.<BR>> > <BR>> > 4). Has the Forest Service/county commissioners polled the people most <BR>> > affected by a trade to determine what the people, the owners, most <BR>> > affected want to do? <BR>> > <BR>> > You guess.<BR>> > <BR>> > 5). Alternative: Do not trade away the national forests to private <BR>> > developers but work to purchase the Lochsa stripped lands from the owner <BR>> > and turn them into national forests managed correctly by the peoples? <BR>> > management entity, the USFS.<BR>> > <BR>> > Send an email to the County Commissioners (emails below) informing them in <BR>> > strong terms of your support for kioboshing the land swap in Latah:<BR>> > <BR>> > Email addresses: <BR>> > <BR>> >
Commissioners:<BR>> > <BR>> > Tom Stroschein, <BR>> > Chair, District II, <BR>> > tstroschein@latah.id..us <BR>> > Jack Nelson, <BR>> > District III, <BR>> > jnelson@latah.id.us <BR>> > <BR>> > Jennifer Barrett, <BR>> > District I, <BR>> > jbarrett@latah.id.us<BR>> > <BR>> > ---------------------------<BR>> > <BR>> > Seeya there, Moscow.<BR>> > <BR>> > Tom Hansen<BR>> > Moscow, Idaho<BR>> > <BR>> > Join us at The First Annual Intolerista Wingding, April 17th, featuring <BR>> > Roy Zimmerman and Jeanne McHale. For details go to . . .<BR>> > <BR>> > http://www.MoscowCares.com/Wingding<BR>> > <BR>> > Seeya<BR>> > there.<BR>> > <BR>> > ---------------------------------------------<BR>> > This message was sent by First Step Internet.<BR>> > http://www.fsr.com/<BR>> > <BR>>
> <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> Message: 4<BR>> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:05:20 -0700 (PDT)<BR>> From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com><BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Six gay men shot to death in Iraq<BR>> To: vision2020@moscow.com, nielsen@uidaho.edu, keely emerinemix<BR>> <kjajmix1@msn.com><BR>> Message-ID: <234445.37224.qm@web38105.mail.mud.yahoo.com><BR>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR>> <BR>> Kelly,<BR>> ?<BR>> What is the difference between Puke and Ralph? They are the synonyms, just like Christians and Xtians, right? <BR>> ?<BR>> Just as it matters to him, it matters to me. Ralph was being offensive, as was I in return. <BR>> ?<BR>> And if Christ cannot make a positive image on these people, I won't waste?my time?trying to impress them either. <BR>> ?<BR>> Best
Regards,<BR>> ?<BR>> Donovan<BR>> <BR>> --- On Tue, 4/7/09, keely emerinemix <kjajmix1@msn.com> wrote:<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> From: keely emerinemix <kjajmix1@msn.com><BR>> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Six gay men shot to death in Iraq<BR>> To: donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com, vision2020@moscow.com, nielsen@uidaho.edu<BR>> Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 9:15 AM<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> #yiv1285531396 .hmmessage P<BR>> {<BR>> margin:0px;padding:0px;}<BR>> #yiv1285531396 {<BR>> font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;}<BR>> <BR>> Donovan, why do you call Ralph "puke"?? It is offensive.<BR>> <BR>> While I don't like seeing, for example, "X-mas" on winter holiday cards, I don't think that "Xians" is society's attempt to malign Christians.? It might, honestly, be Ralph's, but why confirm what I imagine is his conclusion that modern Christiandom looks so little like Christ?<BR>> <BR>>
Keely<BR>> http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:12:02 -0700<BR>> From: donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com<BR>> To: Vision2020@moscow.com; nielsen@uidaho.edu<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Six gay men shot to death in Iraq<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Puke,<BR>> ?<BR>> Why do you use the term "Xians"? It is offensive.<BR>> ?<BR>> Best Regards.<BR>> ?<BR>> Donovan<BR>> <BR>> --- On Mon, 4/6/09, Ralph Nielsen <nielsen@uidaho.edu> wrote:<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> From: Ralph Nielsen <nielsen@uidaho.edu><BR>> Subject: [Vision2020] Six gay men shot to death in Iraq<BR>> To: "vision 2020" <Vision2020@moscow.com><BR>> Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 11:04 AM<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> To everybody,<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Don't forget that the Nazis hated gays just as much
as Jews. They sent both groups to concentration and extermination camps.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> And both groups are condemned in the New Testament. Some Xians love that fact.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Ralph<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Paul,<BR>> ?<BR>> That is only because you know it is true! Gays and woman can be shot, beheaded, and burned alive, and you defend those governments and societies and think we should send them money and support.?<BR>> ? <BR>> What is the difference between what Nazis did to Jews, and what these men are doing to woman and gays??<BR>> ? <BR>> Best Regards,<BR>> ? <BR>> Donovan<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> =======================================================<BR>> List services made available by First Step Internet, <BR>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.???<BR>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.fsr.net?
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