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<DIV>International Law is pointless because it is not established by the international community. I never voted for an international law, agreed to follow them, nor has the majority of people. </DIV>
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<DIV>Laws are not any good at all if they are not established by the people in which they are to govern. People have the right to self governance. The government only has the rights given to it by the people, no more. </DIV>
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<DIV>Power and authority runs from the people to the government, not the government to the people. </DIV>
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<DIV>Best Regards,</DIV>
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<DIV>Donovan<BR><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 3/30/09, Dave <I><tiedye@turbonet.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Dave <tiedye@turbonet.com><BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Spanish Court Considering Arrest Warrants for<BR>To: "vision2020" <vision2020@moscow.com><BR>Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 10:54 AM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=plainMail>Of course we CAN, we are the big bad ass empire, we can get away with<BR>anything (and often do), the question is SHOULD we. And what can we do<BR>to establish an actual rule of law?<BR><BR>Donovan, what good is a "law" if no one follows it? If I felt it were necessary to bulldoze your house to "protect" my interests, what would stop me?<BR><BR>Dave<BR><BR><BR><BR>Donovan Arnold wrote:<BR>> "Are you suggesting that we are justified in torturing prisoners, burning<BR>> down villages, and attacking non-combatants simply because these inhumane<BR>> actions serve our purposes?"-Tom Hansen<BR>> <BR>> I didn't suggest that. I said the US can break international law if it<BR>> needs to in order to protect its own interests.<BR>> <BR>> Best Regards,<BR>> <BR>> Donovan<BR>><BR>><BR>> --- On *Mon, 3/30/09, Tom Hansen /<<A
href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=thansen@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A>>/* wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>> From: Tom Hansen <<A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=thansen@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A>><BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Spanish Court Considering Arrest<BR>> Warrants for<BR>> To: "vision 2020" <<A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>>, "Sunil Ramalingam"<BR>> <<A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" ymailto="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</A>><BR>> Date: Monday, March 30, 2009,
10:04 AM<BR>><BR>> Arnold stated:<BR>><BR>> "Not true, the US can violate international law in order to<BR>> protect its<BR>> own interests."<BR>><BR>> This comment extends WAY BEYOND the pale.<BR>><BR>> International law such as those prescribed by the Geneva Accords<BR>> of 1949?<BR>><BR>> Are you suggesting that we are justified in torturing prisoners,<BR>> burning<BR>> down villages, and attacking non-combatants simply because these<BR>> inhumane<BR>> actions serve our purposes?<BR>><BR>> The ends does NOT justify the means!!!<BR>><BR>> If so, I suggest we
change our <SPAN>nattional</SPAN> motto "E Plurubus Unum"<BR>> to "Do as<BR>> I say, not as I do."<BR>><BR>> Tom Hansen<BR>> Moscow, Idaho<BR>><BR>> Join us at The First Annual Intolerista Wingding, April 17th,<BR>> featuring<BR>> Roy Zimmerman and Jeanne McHale. For details go to . . .<BR>><BR>> <A href="http://www.moscowcares.com/Wingding" target=_blank>http://www.MoscowCares.com/Wingding</A><BR>> <<A href="http://www.moscowcares.com/Wingding" target=_blank>http://www.moscowcares.com/Wingding</A>><BR>><BR>> Seeya<BR>> there.<BR>><BR>> ---------------------------------------------<BR>>
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