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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>It was created when a musket was the most cutting edge
military weapon available. "Machine guns" are already tightly controlled
and a legally owned class 3 weapon being used in a violent crime is
virtually unheard of. A very impressive statistic when you consider the many
thousands of privately owned firearms of this type. The same applies to CWP
holders. The long and the short of it is that criminals commit gun crimes and
there are all kinds of laws on the books already to address that issue. The law
in question (HR 45, HR 1022 and others of similar ilk) are meant
to take away some of the rights of law abiding gun
owners.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>g</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=kerrybecker6924@hotmail.com
href="mailto:kerrybecker6924@hotmail.com">kerry becker</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=editor@lataheagle.com
href="mailto:editor@lataheagle.com">editor@lataheagle.com</A> ; <A
title=sslund_2007@verizon.net
href="mailto:sslund_2007@verizon.net">sslund_2007@verizon.net</A> ; <A
title=sunilramalingam@hotmail.com
href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 18, 2009 3:48
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] House Bill 216
(Pharmacist Conscience Bill)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Yes but wasn't this right created during a time where arms
meant muskets not machine guns?<BR> <BR>Just sayin.. <BR> <BR>
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From: <A href="mailto:editor@lataheagle.com">editor@lataheagle.com</A><BR>To:
<A href="mailto:sslund_2007@verizon.net">sslund_2007@verizon.net</A>; <A
href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</A><BR>Date:
Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:43:04 -0700<BR>CC: <A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR>Subject: Re:
[Vision2020] House Bill 216 (Pharmacist Conscience Bill)<BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Simple.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Driving is a privelege.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ownership of firearms is a right.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I really don't get what part of that people don't
"get".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>We have law upon law upon law controlling gun
ownership, yet idiots who think everyone with a gun is a threat keep passing
more and more restrictive laws.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thumbprints? Notification of change of address? A
photo kept on file?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Why does this bring to mind the sexual offender
registry? Don't sexual offenders have a number of similar
regulations?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>At least they got a trial.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=sslund_2007@verizon.net
href="mailto:sslund_2007@verizon.net">Saundra Lund</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=editor@lataheagle.com
href="mailto:editor@lataheagle.com">'Kai Eiselein'</A> ; <A
title=sunilramalingam@hotmail.com
href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">'Sunil Ramalingam'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">'vision 2020'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Vision2020] House Bill
216 (Pharmacist Conscience Bill)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Kai
wrote:</SPAN></P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">“</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">We are headed
into brave new world... just like Nazi Germany, Communist Russia and
any number of other totalitarian states.”</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN></P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN> </P>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Didn’t we
already get there when the same started being required for things like
driver’s licenses??? While I’m not up on what your concerns might be
with this particular piece of legislation, can you explain why you think the
licensing of firearms should be easier than getting a driver’s
license?</SPAN></P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Besides, after
the huge erosions of the previous eight years under King George, forgive me
if I can’t get too worked up about what seem to be to be common sense
changes to the licensing of firearms. Personally, I think gun
advocates do themselves a huge disservice and make the issue far more
divisive than it needs to be by fighting against common sense changes
designed to stop the huge trafficking in illegal firearms.</SPAN></P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">For those
interested in reading the full text, here’s a link I hope works:</SPAN></P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><A
href="http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/text">http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/text</A></SPAN></P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Also, why are
you so much more concerned about a bill that’s highly unlikely to pass (IMHO
– there are no co-sponsors) than you are about legislation that can have
very real detrimental effects on health care in Idaho and weasle religious
beliefs and conscience into the free market to interfer with the
doctor-patient relationship?</SPAN></P>
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style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Saundra
Lund</SPAN></P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Moscow,
ID</SPAN></P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">The
only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
nothing.</SPAN></P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">~
Edmund Burke</SPAN></P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">*****
Original material contained herein is Copyright 2009 through life plus 70
years, Saundra Lund. Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce
outside the Vision 2020 forum without the express written permission of the
author.*****</SPAN></B></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Kai Eiselein<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:05
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Sunil Ramalingam<BR><B>Cc:</B> vision
2020<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] House Bill 216 (Pharmacist
Conscience Bill)</SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I'm refering to
H.R.45 AKA: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of
2009</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'"></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Which will
require gun purchasers to be licensed, photographed, fingerprinted and
notify the government of address changes.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'"></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">We are headed
into brave new world... just like Nazi Germany, Communist Russia and
any number of other totalitarian states.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'"></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> <A
title=sunilramalingam@hotmail.com
href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">Sunil Ramalingam</A>
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<DIV>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Cc:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision
2020</A> </SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> Wednesday,
March 18, 2009 10:44 AM</SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> Re:
[Vision2020] House Bill 216 (Pharmacist Conscience Bill)</SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'"></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">Kai,<BR><BR>I
came up with a blank page when I followed your link. What are you
focusing on here?<BR><BR>Sunil<BR><BR>> From: <A
href="mailto:editor@lataheagle.com">editor@lataheagle.com</A><BR>> To:
<A href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</A>;
<A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A><BR>> Date:
Wed, 18 Mar 2009 09:42:02 -0700<BR>> CC: <A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR>>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] House Bill 216 (Pharmacist Conscience
Bill)<BR>> <BR>> Frankly, I'm more worried about this bill in
Congress:<BR>>
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45.IH:<BR>> <BR>>
Just one more step on the road to a totalitarian state.<BR>> <BR>>
----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "Joe Campbell"
<philosopher.joe@gmail.com><BR>> To: "Tom Hansen"
<thansen@moscow.com><BR>> Cc:
<vision2020@moscow.com><BR>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:20
AM<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] House Bill 216 (Pharmacist Conscience
Bill)<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> >A better bill would allow McDonald's
workers to refuse to serve those<BR>> > who are overweight. I'd love
the right to refuse to read papers using<BR>> > bad
arguments.<BR>> ><BR>> > Joe Campbell<BR>> ><BR>>
> On Mar 18, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen@moscow.com>
wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> >> Courtesy of the Spokesman Review's
blog site.<BR>> >><BR>> >>
---------------------------------------------<BR>> >><BR>>
>> Pharmacist conscience bill heads for amendment<BR>> >>
at 8:04 a.m. on March 18<BR>> >><BR>> >> Rep. Tom
Loertscher’s bill to give pharmacists or “any person”<BR>> >> the
right<BR>> >> to refuse to fill a prescription for a patient on
the basis of<BR>> >> conscience<BR>> >> is headed for
the House’s amending order, to revise the bill so it a<BR>> >>
pplies<BR>> >> only to pharmacists - not to cashiers, stores, or
others. Rep. Lynn<BR>> >> Luker,<BR>> >> R-Boise,
proposed the amendments. “It’s simply a matter of burden<BR>> >>
of<BR>> >> proof,” he said. “I don’t think it will change in any
way the<BR>> >> current<BR>> >> practices, because
people do have that right.” Emotional testimony o<BR>> >> n
the<BR>> >> bill stretched for two days before it was approved
for amendment on<BR>> >> a 14-4<BR>> >> vote. The
testimony included pharmacists and other experts who said<BR>> >>
Idaho<BR>> >> pharmacists already have the right to refuse to
fill a prescription;<BR>> >> Idaho<BR>> >> has no law
requiring them to fill all prescriptions. Among those who<BR>> >>
testified was pharmacist Gloria Hansen, who said, “I do know that
we<BR>> >> need<BR>> >> to act according to our
conscience. .. I lean on the rock which is the<BR>> >> lord
God.”<BR>> >><BR>> >>
---------------------------------------------<BR>> >><BR>>
>> It is truly a sad day in Idaho for those citizens whose
ethics,<BR>> >> morals,<BR>> >> and religious beliefs
differ from those of their pharmacist.<BR>> >><BR>> >>
Query: If an asthmatic, living in extremely rural Idaho, dependent
on<BR>> >> inhalers for survival, is refused access to such
much-needed<BR>> >> inhalers, by<BR>> >> his/her
pharmacist, because (s)he is gay or his/her<BR>> >>
ethics/morals/religious beliefs differ from his/her pharmacist's<BR>>
>> ethics/morals/religious beliefs . . . and the asthmatic dies as
a<BR>> >> result . . . is the pharmacist guilty of
ANYTHING?<BR>> >><BR>> >> Seeya round town,
Moscow.<BR>> >><BR>> >> Tom Hansen<BR>> >>
Moscow, Idaho<BR>> >><BR>> >> Join us at The First
Annual Intolerista Wingding, April 17th,<BR>> >>
featuring<BR>> >> Roy Zimmerman and Jeanne McHale. For details go
to . . .<BR>> >><BR>> >>
http://www.MoscowCares.com/Wingding<BR>> >><BR>> >>
Seeya<BR>> >> there.<BR>> >><BR>> >>
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