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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Kai
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>“</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>We are headed
into brave new world... just like Nazi Germany, Communist Russia and any
number of other totalitarian states.”</span><span style='font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Didn’t
we already get there when the same started being required for things like driver’s
licenses??? While I’m not up on what your concerns might be with
this particular piece of legislation, can you explain why you think the
licensing of firearms should be easier than getting a driver’s license?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Besides,
after the huge erosions of the previous eight years under King George, forgive
me if I can’t get too worked up about what seem to be to be common sense
changes to the licensing of firearms. Personally, I think gun advocates do
themselves a huge disservice and make the issue far more divisive than it needs
to be by fighting against common sense changes designed to stop the huge
trafficking in illegal firearms.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>For
those interested in reading the full text, here’s a link I hope works:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a
href="http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/text">http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/text</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Also,
why are you so much more concerned about a bill that’s highly unlikely to
pass (IMHO – there are no co-sponsors) than you are about legislation
that can have very real detrimental effects on health care in Idaho and weasle religious
beliefs and conscience into the free market to interfer with the doctor-patient
relationship?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Saundra Lund<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Moscow, ID<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good
people to do nothing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>~ Edmund Burke<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2009
through life plus 70 years, Saundra Lund. Do not copy, forward, excerpt,
or reproduce outside the Vision 2020 forum without the express written
permission of the author.*****<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Kai Eiselein<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:05 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Sunil Ramalingam<br>
<b>Cc:</b> vision 2020<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] House Bill 216 (Pharmacist Conscience Bill)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I'm
refering to H.R.45 AKA: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act
of 2009</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Which
will require gun purchasers to be licensed, photographed, fingerprinted and
notify the government of address changes.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>We
are headed into brave new world... just like Nazi Germany, Communist
Russia and any number of other totalitarian states.</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com"
title="sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">Sunil Ramalingam</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Cc:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" title="vision2020@moscow.com">vision 2020</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Wednesday, March 18,
2009 10:44 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Re: [Vision2020]
House Bill 216 (Pharmacist Conscience Bill)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Kai,<br>
<br>
I came up with a blank page when I followed your link. What are you
focusing on here?<br>
<br>
Sunil<br>
<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:editor@lataheagle.com">editor@lataheagle.com</a><br>
> To: <a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</a>;
<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a><br>
> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 09:42:02 -0700<br>
> CC: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] House Bill 216 (Pharmacist Conscience Bill)<br>
> <br>
> Frankly, I'm more worried about this bill in Congress:<br>
> http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45.IH:<br>
> <br>
> Just one more step on the road to a totalitarian state.<br>
> <br>
> ----- Original Message ----- <br>
> From: "Joe Campbell" <philosopher.joe@gmail.com><br>
> To: "Tom Hansen" <thansen@moscow.com><br>
> Cc: <vision2020@moscow.com><br>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:20 AM<br>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] House Bill 216 (Pharmacist Conscience Bill)<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> >A better bill would allow McDonald's workers to refuse to serve those<br>
> > who are overweight. I'd love the right to refuse to read papers using<br>
> > bad arguments.<br>
> ><br>
> > Joe Campbell<br>
> ><br>
> > On Mar 18, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen@moscow.com>
wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> >> Courtesy of the Spokesman Review's blog site.<br>
> >><br>
> >> ---------------------------------------------<br>
> >><br>
> >> Pharmacist conscience bill heads for amendment<br>
> >> at 8:04 a.m. on March 18<br>
> >><br>
> >> Rep. Tom Loertscher’s bill to give pharmacists or
“any person”<br>
> >> the right<br>
> >> to refuse to fill a prescription for a patient on the basis of<br>
> >> conscience<br>
> >> is headed for the House’s amending order, to revise the
bill so it a<br>
> >> pplies<br>
> >> only to pharmacists - not to cashiers, stores, or others. Rep.
Lynn<br>
> >> Luker,<br>
> >> R-Boise, proposed the amendments. “It’s simply a
matter of burden<br>
> >> of<br>
> >> proof,” he said. “I don’t think it will change
in any way the<br>
> >> current<br>
> >> practices, because people do have that right.” Emotional
testimony o<br>
> >> n the<br>
> >> bill stretched for two days before it was approved for amendment
on<br>
> >> a 14-4<br>
> >> vote. The testimony included pharmacists and other experts who
said<br>
> >> Idaho<br>
> >> pharmacists already have the right to refuse to fill a
prescription;<br>
> >> Idaho<br>
> >> has no law requiring them to fill all prescriptions. Among those
who<br>
> >> testified was pharmacist Gloria Hansen, who said, “I do
know that we<br>
> >> need<br>
> >> to act according to our conscience. .. I lean on the rock which
is the<br>
> >> lord God.”<br>
> >><br>
> >> ---------------------------------------------<br>
> >><br>
> >> It is truly a sad day in Idaho for those citizens whose ethics,<br>
> >> morals,<br>
> >> and religious beliefs differ from those of their pharmacist.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Query: If an asthmatic, living in extremely rural Idaho,
dependent on<br>
> >> inhalers for survival, is refused access to such much-needed<br>
> >> inhalers, by<br>
> >> his/her pharmacist, because (s)he is gay or his/her<br>
> >> ethics/morals/religious beliefs differ from his/her pharmacist's<br>
> >> ethics/morals/religious beliefs . . . and the asthmatic dies as a<br>
> >> result . . . is the pharmacist guilty of ANYTHING?<br>
> >><br>
> >> Seeya round town, Moscow.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Tom Hansen<br>
> >> Moscow, Idaho<br>
> >><br>
> >> Join us at The First Annual Intolerista Wingding, April 17th,<br>
> >> featuring<br>
> >> Roy Zimmerman and Jeanne McHale. For details go to . . .<br>
> >><br>
> >> http://www.MoscowCares.com/Wingding<br>
> >><br>
> >> Seeya<br>
> >> there.<br>
> >><br>
> >> ---------------------------------------------<br>
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