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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>G-</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>That is the core of the problem here.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You say that an abortion is "the death of a child"
and as such trumps the normal requirements of professionalism (doctors should be
able to refuse to do such things based upon their religious
convictions)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>However, not everyone agrees with you..not your
definition of abortion nor what constitutes a religious conviction</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Religious convictions come in a wide range of
flavors. I can certainly see situations (as Saundra Lund notes) where
medical providers, citing their religious beliefs, refuse to provide prenatal
care to various clients, refuse to give ED medication, refuse to do
reconstructive surgery.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>BL</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jampot@roadrunner.com href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">g.
crabtree</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=sslund_2007@verizon.net
href="mailto:sslund_2007@verizon.net">Saundra Lund</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 04, 2009 7:11
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Obama to
Rescind Conscience Rule</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">"Third, I
personally was looking forward to seeing Mr. Crabtree’s howls of indignation
the first time a clinic refused to provide prenatal care to a welfare mother
with more children than she can support. Or, the first time a married
woman was denied insurance coverage for baby number three, four, five, or
more. Or, the first time one of his buddies was denied his ED
medication. Or, a loved one was denied reconstructive surgery following
a mastectomy. And so forth."</SPAN></P>
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style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><FONT
color=#000000>She sets 'em up and she knocks 'em down! The straw men, that is.
</FONT></SPAN></P>
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style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><FONT
color=#000000></FONT></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><FONT
color=#000000>She then goes on to make a specious argument that involves
fiscal responsibility. It's good to start ones day with a hearty belly laugh.
Keep it up Ms.Lund. Now that D.L. Hughley is a "journalist/news commentator"
there's a slot for angry comedienne that's come open. The similarity in
hairdo's should aid in the transition.</FONT></SPAN></P>
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style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><FONT
color=#000000></FONT></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><FONT
color=#000000>The fact of the matter is that not one of your
examples forces the health care provider to be complicit in the death of
a child. Yip and squeal all you like, killing people is not the equivalent of
being denied a boner pill and someone who thinks our new demander in chief
trots on water really has no chops for making an economic responsibility
presentation.</FONT></SPAN></P>
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style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><FONT
color=#000000></FONT></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><FONT
color=#000000>g</FONT></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=sslund_2007@verizon.net
href="mailto:sslund_2007@verizon.net">Saundra Lund</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 03, 2009 11:46
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Obama to
Rescind Conscience Rule</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Tongue planted
firmly in cheek, I have to say that I don’t think the Conscience Rule was
all bad </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings">J</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"> Of
course, it helps that it was drafted by morons who didn’t bother to think
about anything other than trying to ram their beliefs down the throats – and
into the pocketbooks – of everyone.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">First, I think
folks should read what it actually says and what it actually requires.
It’s freely available in the CRF – have a good read.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Second, isn’t it
absolutely amazing that so many of the people – who lost the election – are
screaming about evil government and wanting to keep evil government as small
as possible except when they want it to advance their personal
agendas? Why, the unmasking of the hypocrisy alone is worth the price
of admission, isn’t it?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Third, I
personally was looking forward to seeing Mr. Crabtree’s howls of indignation
the first time a clinic refused to provide prenatal care to a welfare mother
with more children than she can support. Or, the first time a married
woman was denied insurance coverage for baby number three, four, five, or
more. Or, the first time one of his buddies was denied his ED
medication. Or, a loved one was denied reconstructive surgery
following a mastectomy. And so forth.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Because, of
course, the “Conscience Rule” allowed health providers (the definition of
which was incredibly broad) to refuse to provide, participate in (even
tangentially), provide referrals, or process claims and payments not only on
the basis of “sincere religious belief,” but also “moral conviction.”
Thus, health care delivery in this country was turned into an arena where
others were given free rein to force their religious beliefs and moral
convictions on the rest of us.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">And, let’s think
. . . just for a minute . . . about implementation. In order to
maintain adequate standards of care, this moronic “Conscience Rule” opened
the door for employers – including the government – to stick their noses
into the religious beliefs and moral convictions of their employees and
potential employees. How else could they make sure to staff adequately
for whatever situation might arise? You wouldn’t want, for instance,
the only lab employee on duty to be a Jehovah’s Witness who is willing to do
all the work except those pertaining to transfusions if you were the victim
of a drunk driver and needed an emergency blood transfusion, would
you?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">So, that brings
us to the next inevitable result: skyrocketing health care
costs. Because in order to maintain adequate standards of care, more
employees would be required at all times to pick up the slack of those
refusing to do all aspects of the jobs they were hired to do. So, not
only was our care – and not just those pertaining to family planning,
reproductive freedom, and end of life care – to be dictated by the religious
beliefs and moral convictions of those calling the shots, but we were
supposed to pay for the increased financial burden of those religious
beliefs and convictions. Yeah, that was gonna be real helpful for
those of us already struggling with out-of-control health care
costs.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Yuppers, that
“Conscience Rule” was a real brilliant move conceived by incredibly
brilliant people, huh? It would have been a real hoot to see their
spittle-flecked outraged faces when they realized the Pandora’s Box they
opened.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Saundra<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Moscow,
ID<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">The only thing
necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
nothing.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">~ Edmund
Burke<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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