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<DIV><FONT size=2>"Christianity has a history at least as bloody and violent as
Islam,<BR>but Christianity is nearly seven centuries older, so it has had
the<BR>opportunity to evolve and mature. Further, Islam was pummeled by
the<BR>Crusades, which lasted from the 11th century until the end of
the<BR>17th, courtesy of Christianity. As the US identifies itself as
the<BR>most Christian nation on earth, why are we surprised when they
believe<BR>us?"</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Really? Near as I can tell from the reading I have
done the Muslims gave pretty much as good as they got during much of what is
considered to have been the crusades. Is it now your argument that an immature
and unevolved faithful is still fighting this conflict and that even though not
a single crusade was launched out of North America, we somehow bear
responsibility for western European actions that occurred before our nation was
born? I've got to tell you it seems to me that an awful lot of effort is being
expended to set The United States up as the evil aggressor bad
guy and to give those poor misunderstood militant Islamists a bye.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From: "Chasuk" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:chasuk@gmail.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>chasuk@gmail.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To: "g. crabtree" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>jampot@roadrunner.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Cc: <</FONT><A
href="mailto:garrettmc@verizon.net"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>garrettmc@verizon.net</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>; "vision
2020" <</FONT><A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>; "Sunil
Ramalingam" <</FONT><A href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com"><FONT
face=Arial size=2>sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:01
PM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Humane interrogations
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2>On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 19:09, g. crabtree <</FONT><A
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>jampot@roadrunner.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>
wrote:<BR><BR>> I believe that the enemy we are at war with does in fact hate
our freedoms and values and resents its own lack stature in the world,
particularly in light of what it sees as its former glory.<BR><BR>I'm sorry,
Gary, I consider you a smart guy, but that seems to me both<BR>egocentric and
naïve, sort of along the lines of Freud's belief that<BR>women unconsciously
envied penises.<BR><BR>> The inescapable conclusion a rational person will
come to is that militant Islam and<BR>> wahabaism are the common denominator
and I firmly believe that you can offer<BR>> up all the maudlin mea culpas
and a truck load of tearful apologies and it won't<BR>> reduce the terrorism
one little bit.<BR><BR>Yes, militant Islam and wahabism are often the common
denominator,<BR>because we have fired them in the same crucible. When I
say "we," I<BR>am not blaming the US, at least not exclusively. But we are
the<BR>800-pound gorilla, so we attract a lot of attention, in the same
way<BR>that Wal-Mart, Disney, and Microsoft attract
attention.<BR><BR>Christianity has a history at least as bloody and violent as
Islam,<BR>but Christianity is nearly seven centuries older, so it has had
the<BR>opportunity to evolve and mature. Further, Islam was pummeled by
the<BR>Crusades, which lasted from the 11th century until the end of
the<BR>17th, courtesy of Christianity. As the US identifies itself as
the<BR>most Christian nation on earth, why are we surprised when they
believe<BR>us?<BR><BR>Most Muslims are as peaceable as most Christians, which is
pretty<BR>amazing, all things considered. Anne Coulter sure hasn't
helped<BR>matters, with her comment, "We should invade their countries,
kill<BR>their leaders and convert them to
Christianity."<BR><BR>Chas<BR></FONT></BODY></HTML>