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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Note
Dr. Brunvand is cited in the Sources </span><span style='font-family:
Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> Seriously, for those interested in urban legends, I
highly recommend his books because this stuff is just fascinating.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Saundra Lund<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Moscow, ID<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good
people to do nothing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>~ Edmund Burke<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2009
through life plus 70 years, Saundra Lund. Do not copy, forward, excerpt,
or reproduce outside the Vision 2020 forum without the express written permission
of the author.*****<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Paul Rumelhart
[mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 17, 2009 1:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'deb'; Saundra Lund<br>
<b>Cc:</b> vision2020@moscow.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Vision2020] Local urban legends<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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I did do a manual search through their categories, and did find something
about it. It just didn't come up in a search.<br>
<br>
http://snopes.com/horrors/gruesome/severed.asp<br>
<br>
It's not exact, but it's somewhat similar.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<br>
--- On <b>Tue, 2/17/09, Saundra Lund <i><sslund_2007@verizon.net></i></b>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>From: Saundra Lund
<sslund_2007@verizon.net><br>
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Local urban legends<br>
To: "'Paul Rumelhart'" <godshatter@yahoo.com>,
"'deb'" <debismith@moscow.com><br>
Cc: vision2020@moscow.com<br>
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 10:31 AM<o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>LOL -- there may be nothing on Snopes about this particular urban legend<br>
theme, but it's a common one discussed by Jan Harold Brunvand in his<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> books,<br>
which are really great reads for those interested in urban legends. I've<br>
got several of his books, and it looks like a few are available through the<br>
library. Ahhh -- the wonders of the Internet . . . I just Googled Dr.<br>
Brunvand, and look what I found:<br>
http://www.janbrunvand.com/<br>
<br>
BTW, I heard the exact same harrowing tale in the mid-1970 in the SF Bay<br>
area, only the woman was a foaf -- friend of a friend :-)<br>
<br>
Great stuff, these urban legends, although I think the tunnel story is more<br>
than just an urban legend, as Dan & BJ have mentioned. <br>
<br>
<br>
Saundra Lund<br>
Moscow, ID<br>
<br>
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do<br>
nothing.<br>
~ Edmund Burke<br>
<br>
***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2009 through life plus<br>
70 years, Saundra Lund. Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside<br>
the Vision 2020 forum without the express written<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> permission of the<br>
author.*****<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com]<br>
On Behalf Of Paul Rumelhart<br>
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 9:35 PM<br>
To: deb<br>
Cc: vision2020@moscow.com<br>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Local urban legends<br>
<br>
While we've broached the subject, what allegedly local urban legends <br>
have people heard around here? Any haunted buildings? Spooky areas? <br>
Ancient Indian burial grounds? <br>
<br>
The only one I can think of myself was one I heard of when I was a kid. <br>
Supposedly, on some lonely stretch of highway with woods on both sides <br>
somewhere around here a lady in a car was almost stopped by a group of <br>
individuals in (presumably) Satanic robes who were holding taut a chain <br>
across the road hoping that she would stop. She of course floored it, <br>
and the chain got wrapped around the bumper. When she made to safety, <br>
she went to<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> the nearest police station which examined the chain and <br>
found someone's finger caught in it. They were presumably looking for <br>
someone to use in their nefarious rituals or whatever it is that <br>
Satanists get up to in the backwoods of Idaho. This was long before DNA <br>
testing was a viable option. I did a cursory search on snopes.com, but <br>
found nothing.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<br>
deb wrote:<br>
> Oh, for Pete's sake! This forum has gotten so self righteous and <br>
> up-in-arms, one can't even make a joking reference to "urban<br>
legend" <br>
> without having to provide nine thousand proofs! ROTFL!!!! Stop, Stop, <br>
> it's making my ribs hurt!!!! It's like watching a zombie<br>
movie--too <br>
> stupid to watch, too amazingly ridiculous to ignore!!<br>
> <br>
> Surely, folks who have been in Moscow a while have "heard about <br>
> someone who knew someone who saw the undergound passage between the <br>
> building (X) and the<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> building (y) undergound in downtown Moscow before <br>
> they got covered up"? I've only been here about 25 years, and<br>
have <br>
> heard this urban myth....<br>
> <br>
> As for the "underground newspapers", what were all these old<br>
hippies <br>
> (this poster being one) who came to Moscow to finish their lives doing <br>
> in the sixties? There were "underground newspapers" everywhere. <br>
> Granted, most had a run of two copies before the mimeo machine fumes <br>
> put them out for the count, but they must have been in MOSCOW? They <br>
> were in PULLMAN....the last bastion of the Ole Hippy cannot go <br>
> undefended!!! (That's a joke, Son. Don't sue me)<br>
> <br>
> Y'all need to get over yourselves, get less defensive, and grow a <br>
> sense of humour. No wonder this forum has deteriorated to five people <br>
> closing their eyes while slapping each other silly...you look like a <br>
> Monty Python skit!!! The<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> Department of Ridiculous Defense <br>
> Postures...."OOOOH, OOOH, Prove it!!!" Maybe it's just the<br>
long cold <br>
> winter that's got y'all in a lather? Get some full spectrum<br>
lights, <br>
> some better antidepressants, or a life for Ghod's sake, and stop being<br>
<br>
> so flipping grumpy!!<br>
> <br>
> By the way, Joan Opyr's newest book is out---some conflation of <br>
> characters there look a lot like some Moscovites...From Hell to <br>
> Breakfast is a very funny read! and I think some of you could use a <br>
> really good laugh......................trust me, you WILL feel better.<br>
> Debi R-S<br>
> <br>
> PS: if there is an iota of sunshine, I suggest y'all go stand in it as<br>
<br>
> long as it lasts....stimulate that seratonin, you dour Moscovites!! <br>
> Laugh! Get some fresh air into those stifled and sour nasal passages!! <br>
> Cowboy Up, Kids!! Winter is a ending, though not soon enough to keep<o:p></o:p></pre><pre
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> you all from another smack-down, i'm sure.<br>
<br>
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