<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Rush resigned like Nixon resigned. </div><div><br></div><div>Let's it simple. I'll write Rush's comments and No Weatherman's subject lines on a piece of paper and we'll put you on a street corner in Newark and you explain to people who pass by that the comments aren't racist. If you convince them, I'll rest my case.</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.231373); ">If you prefer, I'll be happy to take the same sheet of paper and ask the folks coming and going into your shop on any given day what they think. What better audience could you have? </span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.231373);"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.231373); ">Or you pick the street corner, shop, or audience (not members of your favorite church, though). However you want to do it. Put your theory to the test. What have you got to loose if you're right.</span></div><div><br>Joe Campbell</div><div><br>On Jan 29, 2009, at 6:23 AM, "g. crabtree" <<a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">jampot@roadrunner.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div><span></span></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">"I, and most sensible people?" looks as though
we're off to a great start.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">It would seem that you are not very well informed
with regard to the Donovan McNabb/Rush Limbaugh incident. From the ESPN web
site:</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div>George Bodenheimer, president of ESPN and ABC Sports, issued the following
response: <font face="Arial" size="2">(to Limbaugh's resignation)</font></div>
<div>
<p>"We accept his resignation and regret the circumstances surrounding this. We
believe that he took the appropriate action to resolve this matter
expeditiously."</p>
<p>The comments referenced by Limbaugh came during Sunday's pregame show when
the conservative talk show host offered the opinion that McNabb wasn't as good
as the media perceived him to be.</p>
<p>"I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media
has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well,'' Limbaugh said. "There
is a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the
performance of this team that he didn't deserve. The defense carried this
team."</p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2">It is an unambiguous fact that the media was
rooting a little extra for McNabb and if you watched any of the reporting and
commentary at the time you couldn't miss it. It is hardly racist to acknowledge
this reality. Jump ahead five years and substitute BHO for DM. It isn't racist
to point out the obvious.</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2">In the first two games of the 2003
season McNabb's performance was sub par. To offer up the opinion that he
was currently over rated was just that, an opinion on his performance, not his
color. McNabb went on to have a pretty good year so consequentially
Limbaugh's comments may have been premature, or poorly informed, or
flat out wrong but they were opinions on a quarterback and not
racism.</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2">Let's review. Rush did not say that McNabb <font face="Times New Roman" size="3">"was not subject to criticism because he was
black." <font face="Arial" size="2">Rush was not "FIRED" (note to jc: all caps and
repetition do not constitute truth) from ESPN. That being cleared up, it really
isn't at all hard to characterize your misinterpretation of the incident as
liberal bias.</font></font></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2">For the record, I do not think that it's racist to
disagree with people of color. I don't think that it's racist to not get all
tingly in my lower extremities when a person of color gets elected to high
office and I most assuredly don't think it's racist to offer up the same
criticism to a person of color that I would to any other public figure
where it's warranted. In fact, I do think that it's more then a little
condescending and, quite frankly, racist not to.</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2">Now, All that having been said, I don't think YOU'RE
a belligerent, racist, liar but, you sure do sound like one. Oh, and by the
way, you have on several previous occasions called me a bigot when the subject
was race, making the first two sentences along with the general theme of
your post prevarications.</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2">g</font></p></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><b>From:</b>
<a title="philosopher.joe@gmail.com" href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">Joe
Campbell</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="jampot@roadrunner.com" href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">g. crabtree</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="sslund_2007@verizon.net" href="mailto:sslund_2007@verizon.net">Saundra Lund</a> ; <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com>"><<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>></a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 28, 2009 5:58
PM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: Crabtree once again defends
racism (was blah, blah, blah)</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>I'm not trying to pick a fight. Nor did I call you a racist. I just find
it curious that you keep putting your stamp of approval next to comments that
I and most sensible people consider to be racist. First there was your defense
of No Weatherman and then your recent defense of comments by Rush. </div>
<div><br></div>
<div>The recent Rush comments, by the way, were similar to comments he made
about Donovan McNabb - that DM was not subject to criticism because he was
black. Those comments, if you remember, got Rush FIRED from espn. You don't
have a problem with the comments but enough people did that he was
FIRED.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>It is hard to pass off my disgust for Rush's recent comments as some kind
of liberal bias in light of this history, these facts. And it is equally hard
to make sense of your support for Rush's comments in light of this history,
these facts.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Lastly, I like how you brush off my suggestion that you characterize all
liberals as holding the same stupid view but you do it again below! I never
said anything negative about Soul, or Williams, or Steele. I never said
anything about any of them. I don't even know who some of them are!</div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font><br></div>
<div>But somewhere, somewhen, some stupid liberal made some stupid comment
about one of them and the rest of us have to pay - because we're all the
same.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>And somehow this all explains why a comment made by Rush, which would
have gotten him fired were he still on espn, isn't as racist as common sense
suggests.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Look, maybe you're not a racist, Gary. But you sure sound like
one.<br><br>Joe Campbell</div>
<div><br>On Jan 28, 2009, at 7:43 AM, "g. crabtree" <<a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"><a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">jampot@roadrunner.com</a></a>>
wrote:<br><br></div>
<div><span></span></div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">First line, irrelevant babble, no response
required.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Second, same as first. Yawn.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Third. Like calling someone a nazi when your
argument is floundering, hurl out the "racist" appellation when you're
desperate to make some sort of a point and nothing else is sticking. If you
would like to continue down this woeful road, why not explain for me and the
rest of the readership what, exactly, is racist about not being impressed
(or distressed) by our new leaders fathers skin color? How does it
make BHO's policy's divinely inspired while the ideas put forth by
Thomas Soul, Walter Williams, and Michael Steele something to be disregarded
as irrelevant and beneath contempt? And finally, what the hell do your pals
pockets have to do with anything? Are they packed full of moon beams and
fairy dust?</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">g</font></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><b>From:</b>
<a title="philosopher.joe@gmail.com" href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">Joe Campbell</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="sslund_2007@verizon.net" href="mailto:sslund_2007@verizon.net">Saundra Lund</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="jampot@roadrunner.com" href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">g. crabtree</a> ; <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com>"><</a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a>>
</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 27, 2009 6:54
PM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020]
Contradictory Crabtree (was RE: Say What?)</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Sandra, no sense in letting the facts get in the way of the radical
right rhetoric. Those who disagree are all communists, God-haters.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>On the other hand, we're all a team, accepting all of the same
views. How else could the Bush ideology win, unless it was black
(liberalism, communism, atheism) against white (truth, justice, and the
American way)? </div>
<div><br></div>
<div>And Tom's original post about Rush's racist comments - which Crabtree
supported without a blink, just like he supported the racist rants of No
Weatherman - is smoothly swept under the rug. What's a little racism when
what is at stake is God Himself? Or the pockets of my friends?<span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.231373)"> </span></div>
<div><br>Joe Campbell</div>
<div><br>On Jan 27, 2009, at 4:33 PM, "Saundra Lund" <<a href="mailto:sslund_2007@verizon.net"></a><a href="mailto:sslund_2007@verizon.net"><a href="mailto:sslund_2007@verizon.net">sslund_2007@verizon.net</a></a>>
wrote:<br><br></div>
<div></div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>
<div class="Section1">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Yet again,
what an enormous crock, but that’s what many of us have come to expect
from you in this forum </span><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings">J</span><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">And, how
wrong you are, as usual. As everyone who knows me knows, Obama
wasn’t “my” candidate, let alone any kind of deity to me. I did,
however, vote for the candidate out of the choices we wound up with who
I thought would do the best job, a decision a clear majority agreed
with. So take your sour grapes and go make some more whine –
continue to be part of the problem rather than part of a solution . . .
that’s what you’re good at.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">It’s not
surprising at all to me – nor should it be to any of us here -- that you
don’t bother to even try to correct what you say I got wrong in
summarizing the positions you’ve taken here. It would be pretty
difficult for you, what with the V2020 archives being open for all
</span><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings">J</span><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Saundra
Lund<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Moscow,
ID<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">The
only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
nothing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">~
Edmund Burke<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">*****
Original material contained herein is Copyright 2009 through life plus
70 years, Saundra Lund. Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or
reproduce outside the Vision 2020 forum without the express written
permission of the author.*****<o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> g. crabtree
[<a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"></a><a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"><a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com</a></a>]
<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 27, 2009 7:42 AM<br><b>To:</b> Saundra
Lund; <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a><br><b>Subject:</b>
Re: [Vision2020] Contradictory Crabtree (was RE: Say
What?)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Ms.
Lund,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> I'm
not sure exactly how pointing out that I will support your new god when
(if) I see him doing good for the country and oppose him when he's not
qualifies as whining but, I guess it's in the ear of the termagant.
I defer to your mastery as eight continuous years of effort
have, without a doubt, left you well practiced on the
matter.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> I
find it highly amusing and not a small bit refreshing that you feel
comfortable enough in your creative writing style to forge ahead without
feeling even the slightest need to anchor yourself to anything
resembling a fact. The errors in your brief communication are many, and
I'm just sure that you'll forgive me if (what with life being short and
all) I don't bother to enumerate them. Lets face it, as one of The
Chosen Ones most fervent followers it's clear that you have gotten
beyond the need for accuracy and reason where it comes to your cute
little school girl affaire d'coeur with your freshly minted
deity. My only request would be that if you are going to do the other
members of this little electronic community the service of pointing
out that evil "Crabtree's" position on any given topic that you provide
a cite so that the others can make a reasonable distinction between my
actual stand on any given matter and what is a fantasy fueled
by your freshly found religious fervor.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">My most heart
felt thanks in advance,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">g</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">-----
Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> <a title="sslund_2007@verizon.net" href="mailto:sslund_2007@verizon.net">Saundra Lund</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">To:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Sent:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> Sunday,
January 25, 2009 9:31 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Subject:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">
[Vision2020] Contradictory Crabtree (was RE: Say
What?)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p></div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">LOL – let
the whining begin!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Gary
Crabtree wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">“</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">As I said
previously, if there is an issue that "our" president should come up
with that I think makes America a better, safer, or <b>less
restrictive place to live</b>, I'll support
him.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Note the
quotation marks Crabtree uses – he’s clearly wanting to continue with
the divisiveness that doomed the election for the
GOP.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Of course,
he contradicts himself here:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">“</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">If BHO
plans on making good on his campaign promises with regard to abortion,
education, taxes, health care, the second amendment, the global
warming hoax, and the war on terror, then I suspect a huge
portion of the 53 million American's who didn't vote for him (once)
hope he fails miserably, myself included.”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">So,
Crabtree only wants a less restrictive place to live if it suits his
notion of a “less restrictive place to live” – he’s against
reproductive rights, even for rape victims. Let’s keep them thar
women broodmares! Remember, he’s a staunch supporter of
misogynistic “conscience laws” that enable pharmacists to refuse to
dispense contraceptives, emergency or otherwise, which would certainly
make America a much more restrictive place for women to live.
The broken health care system folks like Crabtree want to cling to has
made America a much more restrictive place to live for many regular
hardworking Americans – he’s seemingly proud of the fact that we are
the only industrialized nation where people lose their homes due to
unconscionable health care costs. The Second Amendment our
founding fathers gave us isn’t good enough for Crabtree and his ilk –
they want a Second Amendment on Steroids. He’s content that the
War on Terror has lead to the terrorization of US citizens through the
erosion of our guaranteed civil liberties and put us on a path to a
police state – that sure seems like a much more restrictive place to
live to me, and that’s without even getting into the shame of torture
and denial of due process to suspects. He’s pleased with a tax
system that unfairly burdens the least among us while providing
nothing but loopholes ripe for exploitation by the greedy amongst us,
especially those who benefit from the special interest lobbying they
fund. Education – his solution is I don’t know what,
but it would likely look similar – and have results similar to – the
deregulation that’s caused the financial crisis that came crashing
down around Bush’s ears. God only knows what nonsense fills his
head about global warming – it would appear his understanding of
science is limited to the right-wing whack jobs who flunked
science.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Fortunately,
the election was a resounding rejection of those like Crabtree who
want keep doing things that don’t work. And, I’m sure we have
his sore loser whining to look forward to for the next four
years. After all, this was a legitimate win for Obama, which
must make the win that much more difficult to swallow
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Lund<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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ID<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">The
only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
nothing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Edmund Burke<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Original material contained herein is Copyright 2008 through life plus
70 years, Saundra Lund. Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a></a>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>g. crabtree<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 25,
2009 12:38 PM<br><b>To:</b> Chasuk<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a><br><b>Subject:</b>
Re: [Vision2020] Say What?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I guess
that it all depends on which side of the Kool-Aid jug you sit on. I
can't believe that you can say with a straight face that what you
might find on drudge or the freep is as over the top as some of the
mindless, howling at the moon, wackiness found at kos or
huffington.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">As I said
previously, if there is an issue that "our" president should come up
with that I think makes America a better, safer, or less restrictive
place to live, I'll support him. On everything else I'll fight him to
the best of my ability and hope for his catastrophic failure.
Since I am unaware of a single issue with which I am in agreement
major policy wise, I don't think that there will be much to support.
If every mega leftist measure your hero puts forward is an abject
failure it will hopefully discredit the ultra liberal wing of the
democrat party and hasten the rise of a truly conservative candidate.
All to the greater glory of our republic, in my
opinion.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">From:
"Chasuk" <</span><a href="mailto:chasuk@gmail.com"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">chasuk@gmail.com</span></a><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">></span><o:p></o:p></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">To: "g.
crabtree" <</span><a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">jampot@roadrunner.com</span></a><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">></span><o:p></o:p></p></div>
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<</span><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">vision2020@moscow.com</span></a><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">>; "Tom
Hansen" <</span><a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">thansen@moscow.com</span></a><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">></span><o:p></o:p></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Sent:
Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:43 AM</span><o:p></o:p></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Subject:
Re: [Vision2020] Say What?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div>
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Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 06:51, g. crabtree <</span><a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">jampot@roadrunner.com</span></a><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">>
wrote:<br>> <br>>> Remember how your side wished President GW
the best? Sort of like that but<br>>> without the shrillness and
childish demonstrations.<br>> <br>> Sorry, I read a lot of blogs
and new sites, across the political<br>> spectrum -- including
</span><a href="http://drudgereport.com"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">http://drudgereport.com</span></a><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">,<br>>
</span><a href="http://www.freerepublic.com"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">http://www.freerepublic.com</span></a><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">, and
</span><a href="http://worldnetdaily.com"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">http://worldnetdaily.com</span></a><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> --
and<br>> "shrill" and "childish" are words that much more
accurately describe<br>> the conservative side of things.
Other accurate words would be<br>> inarticulate and
ungrammatical.<br>> <br>> And how about wishing that Obama
simply fail to successfully implement<br>> those policies and
agendas with which you disagree? As far as<br>> conservatives
go, you are the voice of reason on this forum, Gary.<br>> You
really don't strike me as subscribing to the<br>>
cut-off-the-nose-to-spite-the-face
philosophy.<br>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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