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<DIV>I think too, that the Scouts are in general a great learning tool for many young men. I also agree that teaching young men to discriminate by banning youths that may be gay or questioning their sexuality is wrong. I think they need to not be an organization about sex or sexual orientation, and instead be an organization that focuses on nature and community service, as they have always been. </DIV>
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<DIV>I was a scout for about two years. I didn't like it as much as Indian Guides. I thought Indian Guides was less formal and more creative. The problem was there was not enough kids to form a decent group in local enough area, so I moved in the Boy Scouts. It was fun, but too formal, in my opinion. </DIV>
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<DIV>Best Regards,</DIV>
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<DIV>Donovan</DIV>
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<DIV>Best Regards,</DIV>
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<DIV>Donovan<BR><BR>--- On <B>Thu, 1/29/09, Joe Campbell <I><philosopher.joe@gmail.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">From: Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe@gmail.com><BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw: [Spam 5.86] BE OUTSIDE!<BR>To: "<SPAN>Chasuk</SPAN>" <chasuk@gmail.com><BR>Cc: "vision2020@moscow.com" <vision2020@moscow.com><BR>Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 2:34 PM<BR><BR><PRE>I don't want get controversial but the anti-gay comments have hurt,
too. I was a scout. And <SPAN>odidnt</SPAN> mind the uniforms! Both my dad and
brother were eagle scouts.
Joe Campbell
On Jan 29, 2009, at 1:44 PM, Chasuk <chasuk@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 12:52, Darrell Keim <keim153@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>> I really like what the CiNN network is all about-getting kids into
>> nature. But, speaking as a former professional Scout coordinator, it
>> seems a bit redundant. We've had Girl and Boy Scouts for almost
100
>> years doing just this. The program is in place, the support network
>> has already been built, 100s of thousands of kids are participating
>> with the assistance of numerous volunteers, and many great camps
>> exist. Why not support and grow what we already have?
>
> When I was a kid, my parents tried to involve me in Scouts many times,
> but I hated it. I disliked then, and I dislike now, anything
> resembling merit badges. If something is worth doing, it is worth
> doing for itself, and the ribbons and medals are condescending.
> Further, most of the merit-badge-earning activities I found pointless
> and tedious.
>
> I dislike that the Boy Scouts are not entirely secular, although the
> Girl Scouts gets this right. I also think that the uniforms should
> go. I know a couple of Boy Scouts, and they all look embarrassed by
> the uniforms.
>
> Anyway, those are my objections to Scouting. Your mileage may vary
> (and probably will).
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