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Donovan,<br><br>The city does not have a law 'allowing people to sue for not shoveling their walkways correctly.' It has a law allowing the city to charge individuals with misdemeanors if they fail to remove snow within 24 hours after being given notice to remove it. The ordinance also allows the city to remove snow and ice if the snow is not removed within 24 hours of notice; the city can then bill the responsible person.<br><br>I did not see where the ordinance specifically allows suits. Certainly if a plaintiff sues because he or she fell on an uncleared sidewalk they will cite the failure to comply with the ordinance, but the ability to bring suit exists independently of the city ordinance. Even if the ordinance did not exist, the ability to sue would still be there.<br><br>And not only is it appropriate to have this ordinance, it should be enforced. Public safety is a basic and legitimate public function.<br><br>Sunil<br><br><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 01:56:26 -0800<br>From: donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com<br>To: vision2020@moscow.com; fcs@moscow.com<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] PR - Citizen Sidewalk Maintenance<br><br><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-weight: inherit; font-size: inherit; line-height: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; -x-system-font: none;" valign="top"><div>Mark,</div>
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<div>There are problems with this because of city law allowing people to sue for not shoveling their walkways correctly. If they changed that law, it might work.</div>
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<div>The other problem you have is that few want to go on a public list of being needy. </div>
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<div>Many people with disabilities don't want it published information. And not everyone is disabled and <span>abled</span>, many people fall somewhere in between depending on how they feel that day. </div>
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<div>Another problem is that people work and have their own driveways to shovel after a snow. </div>
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<div>Again, you have government being the solution and the problem in this instance. It chooses </div>
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<div>Best Regards,</div>
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<div>Donovan<br><br>--- On <b>Wed, 1/21/09, mark seman <i><fcs@moscow.com></i></b> wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px;">From: mark <span>seman</span> <fcs@moscow.com><br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] PR - Citizen Sidewalk Maintenance<br>To: "v2020" <vision2020@moscow.com><br>Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 11:18 PM<br><br>
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<div><span class="EC_156475006-22012009"><font size="2" color="#0000ff" face="Arial">This represents an ideal condition for community-building. The obvious problem (need) is there, and instead of looking towards a convoluted and bureaucratic route of City government to solve it, it could maybe be solved more easily via a grassroots community focus. </font></span></div>
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<div><span class="EC_156475006-22012009"><font size="2" color="#0000ff" face="Arial">Why not develop a neighborhood or community-wide network of people willing to team-up for a half-day and clear sidewalks & drives for those that can't. There will be those able to pay and those unable to pay. Whatever funds are collected could go towards equipment rental or nurishment for the volunteers. Community service does not require a name like Kiwanis or Rotary or Scouts.</font></span></div>
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<div><span class="EC_156475006-22012009"><font size="2" color="#0000ff" face="Arial">Maybe this is even an opportunity for the Viz to create some more positive energy flow within the community. Why not create a list of needy and solicit for volunteers? Then strategize a plan and implement it!</font></span></div>
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<div><span class="EC_156475006-22012009"><font size="2" color="#0000ff" face="Arial">ps - I'm also more annoyed getting whapped in the face by branches that overhang the sidewalk, than by trimmed trees & bushes along sidewalks.</font></span></div>
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<div class="EC_OutlookMessageHeader" dir="ltr" align="left"><font size="2" face="Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<br><b>From:</b> vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com]<b>On Behalf Of </b>Donovan Arnold<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 21, 2009 7:17 PM<br><b>To:</b> v2020; Stephanie Kalasz<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] PR - Citizen Sidewalk Maintenance<br><br></font></div>
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<div>And if you have a disability that prevents you from shoveling the city property next to your property, too bad, the city council still requires you to get out in your wheelchair and shovel away. <img src="http://mail.yimg.com/a/i/mesg/tsmileys2/09.gif"> The shovel police are coming to a sidewalk near you! </div>
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<div>Donovan<br><br>--- On <b>Wed, 1/21/09, Stephanie Kalasz <i><skalasz@ci.moscow.id.us></i></b> wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px;">From: Stephanie <span><span><span>Kalasz</span></span></span> <skalasz@ci.moscow.id.us><br>Subject: [Vision2020] PR - Citizen Sidewalk Maintenance<br>To: "v2020" <vision2020@moscow.com><br>Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 3:17 PM<br><br>
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<p class="EC_MsoNormal"><b><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 12pt;">Moscow, Idaho, January 21, 2009</span></font></b> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">–</span></b>As the forecast is calling for snow this coming weekend, January 24 and 25, the City of Moscow would like to remind residents that under Moscow City ordinance, it is the responsibility of the adjacent property owner to keep sidewalks clear of snow and debris.
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<p class="EC_MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Specifically the Moscow City Code - Title 5 Public Ways and Property states:</span></font>
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