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<DIV><SPAN class=562141321-15012009><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Our
[Heather's & my] younger years were filled with free things for us to do
with our son - Idler's Rest (tigers & bears in the woods), UI Arboretum
(treasure hunting for golf balls), White Ave. (old land fill treasures), UI
Grounds & Buildings (exhibits & architecture, tubing), City parks
(fields, courts, swings & slides), Fair grounds, Hordeman's (sounds of
redwing blackbirds, herons), Paradise Creek, our yard, MJHS track, Courthouse
(displays), City Hall (art & displays), streets (biking & walking), UI
golf course (walking & golfing), tennis courts, Library (public & UI),
Moscow Mt., UI farm, galleries, UI Borah theater, Micro Movie House,
...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=562141321-15012009><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Here's a pic
of Carl's cousin (w/ friend) on AZ rocks...hey, there's free stuff here too,
even for Moscovites.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=562141321-15012009><FONT face=Arial
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<DIV><SPAN class=562141321-15012009><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>ps - the UI
admin/academic system was lousy for non-traditional students back then
too.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com]<B>On
Behalf Of </B>Carl Westberg<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 15, 2009 1:12
PM<BR><B>To:</B> vision2020@moscow.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020]
Family-Friendly Activities (was U of I<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>When I was a kid
growing up in Moscow, my friends and I would head out to a playground with a
couple of baseballs, a couple of bats, and our mitts, and we were happier than
skunks eating bumblebees all day long. I do miss the Bowlerama,
though. Carl Westberg Jr.<BR><BR>> To: kjajmix1@msn.com;
keim153@gmail.com; jennifer@inlandradio.com; vision2020@moscow.com;
donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com<BR>> From: thansen@moscow.com<BR>> Date:
Thu, 15 Jan 2009 19:58:38 +0000<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020]
Family-Friendly Activities (was U of I<BR>> <BR>> And how about
BASEBALL??<BR>> <BR>> You know? Baseball fields and such.<BR>>
<BR>> (Hmmm. Where have I heard this topic brought up before?)<BR>>
<BR>> Tom Hansen<BR>> Moscow, Idaho<BR>> <BR>> > <BR>> >
Ren Faire and Rendezvous, sand-volleyball courts and a dog park!<BR>> >
<BR>> > Keely<BR>> >
http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>>
> <BR>> > <BR>> > > Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 11:19:07
-0800<BR>> > > From: keim153@gmail.com<BR>> > > To:
jennifer@inlandradio.com<BR>> > > CC: vision2020@moscow.com;
donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com<BR>> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020]
Family-Friendly Activities (was U of I <BR>> Program<BR>> >
Cuts)<BR>> > > <BR>> > > Donovan:<BR>> > > <BR>>
> > Have you ever lived anywhere outside of Moscow? Especially in
a<BR>> > > similarly sized community? I have, several different
places in fact,<BR>> > > and I'm willing to bet you have not. For the
size town it is, Moscow<BR>> > > has an impressive list of things for
families to do. And, despite<BR>> > > your incessant carping, a
decent range of salaries, too. The key is<BR>> > > that you have to
compare apples to apples.<BR>> > > <BR>> > > Instead of
listing what you think the town doesn't have, maybe you<BR>> > >
should try being positive for a change. Perhaps the listserv will<BR>> >
> help you come up with a list of things to do in town. I'll start:<BR>>
> > Great restaurants<BR>> > > Nice parks<BR>> > >
Several art galleries<BR>> > > What can you add, V2020?<BR>> >
> <BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > > From:
Donovan Arnold [mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com]<BR>> > > >
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 10:30 AM<BR>> > > > To: 'vision
2020'; Jennifer Ingalls<BR>> > > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020]
Family-Friendly Activities (was U of I<BR>> Progra> m<BR>> > >
> Cuts)<BR>> > > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > >
><BR>> > > > Jennifer,<BR>> > > ><BR>> > >
><BR>> > > ><BR>> > > > I liked doing all those
things too as a child in Moscow. But lets <BR>> face<BR>> >
it,<BR>> > > > there is only so some many times you can visit the
McConnell Mansion<BR>> be> fore<BR>> > > > it no longer
entertaining to a child. And camping doesn't count<BR>> because>
you<BR>> > > > have to leave Moscow to go do it.<BR>> > >
><BR>> > > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > > > If
you are an outdoors type of person, there are lots of things to<BR>> do>
in<BR>> > > > North Idaho. But for many people that are not, it
leaves something<BR>> to> be<BR>> > > > desired.<BR>>
> > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > >
> One of the biggest complaints I heard from students was that there
<BR>> was<BR>> > > > nothing to do in Moscow, and why so many
people supported the Student<BR>> > > > Recreation Building, which
is more like a glorified and over priced<BR>> I> daho<BR>> > >
> Athletic Club with a climbing wall then a recreation center for<BR>>
differe> nt<BR>> > > > kinds of recreational
activities.<BR>> > > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > >
><BR>> > > > I do not think I have found a mother at UI that
thought Moscow's<BR>> daycar> e was<BR>> > > > inexpensive.
There is a huge waiting list too.<BR>> > > ><BR>> > >
><BR>> > > ><BR>> > > > What few things there are
to do in Moscow, also cost a lot of<BR>> money> , which<BR>> >
> > is hard to afford when you have no money, because there are no
jobs<BR>> t> hat pay<BR>> > > > above what you need to
scrape by.<BR>> > > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > >
><BR>> > > > There is less to do in Moscow now then was when my
Mother was child <BR>> in<BR>> > > > Moscow.<BR>> > >
><BR>> > > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > > > We
have no bowling alley. We have no roller skating ring. We have no<BR>>
IM> ax<BR>> > > > Theater. We have fewer quality restaurants.
We have no high tech <BR>> gaming<BR>> > > > center. We have no
science discovery park, we have no big museums.<BR>> No> race<BR>>
> > > cars. No theme parks, no big fancy hangouts, we don't even
really<BR>> h> ave a<BR>> > > > year round swimming
pool,<BR>> > > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > >
><BR>> > > > The best thing Moscow has for entertainment is the
Library. Which is <BR>> a<BR>> > great<BR>> > > >
library, but hardly the place that comes to mind when we want to<BR>>
thin> k about<BR>> > > > entertainment.<BR>> > >
><BR>> > > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > > > Yes,
you can always THINK of something to do in Moscow, but that<BR>> is>
the<BR>> > > > problem, you really have to THINK, to find
something to do. Its<BR>> Mid> night in<BR>> > > > Moscow,
besides the bars and the Jack N the Crack drive-thru, what<BR>> > is
open?<BR>> > > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > >
><BR>> > > > Best Regards,<BR>> > > ><BR>> >
> ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > > > Donovan<BR>> >
> ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > >
><BR>> > > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > >
><BR>> > > > --- On Wed, 1/14/09, Jennifer Ingalls
<jennifer@inlandradio.com><BR>> wr> ote:<BR>> > >
><BR>> > > > From: Jennifer Ingalls
<jennifer@inlandradio.com><BR>> > > > Subject: [Vision2020]
Family-Friendly Activities (was U of I Program<BR>> Cu> ts)<BR>> >
> > To: "'vision 2020'" <vision2020@moscow.com><BR>> > >
> Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 1:27 PM<BR>> > > ><BR>>
> > > I don't necessarily want to get into the argument about
diversity in<BR>> Mo> scow<BR>> > > > or at UI, but I do
take some issue with Donovan's statement, "Not<BR>> t> o mention<BR>>
> > > the lack of affordable child care, or family fun
activities."<BR>> > > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > >
><BR>> > > > I grew up in Moscow and though my family had more
money than families<BR>> w> here<BR>> > > > a student is the
primary financier of the household, we were not at<BR>> a> loss<BR>>
> > > for family-friendly free activities (unless we were willfully
bored).<BR>> T> his<BR>> > > > is not to say that we can't
do better as a community at providing <BR>> free<BR>> > > >
and/or inexpensive activities, but I think many of us forget those<BR>>
th> ings<BR>> > > > that are available to us. For example, I
–regretfully—cannot<BR>> reme> mber the<BR>> > > > last time
I went to the McConnell Mansion or picked up a walking tour<BR>> g>
uide<BR>> > > > of the towns history and hoofed it through Fort
Russell (two<BR>> activities> that<BR>> > > > occupied
Spring and Summer days of my youth). The library (which I<BR>> reme>
mber<BR>> > > > as only being the old part of the building) was
cool in the Summer <BR>> and<BR>> > warm<BR>> > > > in
the Winter. Organizations like Campfire, Boy Scouts, Girl<BR>> Scouts>
and<BR>> > > > local churches provided the three of us a lot of
fun and educational<BR>> > > > activities (both our family's
church of choice and the churches or<BR>> reli> gious<BR>> > >
> organizations of friends). My mom used to take us to Good Sam to<BR>>
distri> bute<BR>> > > > our wares after craft days at the
house. We'd ride bikes out to<BR>> Robinso> n<BR>> > > >
Lake Park , "fish" in Hordeman's pond, or take advantage of all the<BR>>
> > > demonstrations, concerts and educational lectures the
University<BR>> offe> red.<BR>> > > > There were a lot of
things to do!<BR>> > > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > >
><BR>> > > > I'll grant that I was a nerdy kid (still am). I,
too, would love<BR>> to> see more<BR>> > > > activities
available after school that would appeal to "at risk" <BR>> youth<BR>>
> (I AM<BR>> > > > doing something about that with my
involvement in Latah County Youth<BR>> > > > Advocacy Council),
but I don't think can jump on board with the whole<BR>> > > >
"there's nothing to do here" claim.<BR>> > > ><BR>> > >
><BR>> > > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > >
><BR>> > > > Jennifer L. Ingalls<BR>> > > ><BR>>
> > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > > ><BR>>
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