<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><DIV>What makes me mad about the sidewalks is that the city gave UI control of the streets at UI in exchange they take care of them, such as remove the ice and fix the potholes in exchange they be allowed to charge students and UI visitors parking fees. </DIV>
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<DIV>Sure, UI charges the parking fees, but neglects removing the ice and snow. Some of those hill are extremely slick, and no handrails to keep your feet under you. </DIV>
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<DIV>I still have problems from my left knee being twisted when I slid down the icy hill in from the Health building. I would think by 10:30 AM someone would get around to salting or graveling the steep icy hills at UI. If it wasn't for two college students that picked me up off the ground, I would probably still be there. </DIV>
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<DIV>Me personally, I prefer to have the snow to walk on instead of a icy hill or sidewalk. Those snow removal plows leave 2 inches of packed ice on the roads instead a foot of snow that has at least some traction. Same goes with the sidewalks. The small remaining snow melts and turns to ice by the next morning or late that night. </DIV>
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<DIV>Best Regards,</DIV>
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<DIV>Donovan</DIV>
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<DIV> <BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 12/30/08, Art Deco <I><deco@moscow.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">From: Art Deco <deco@moscow.com><BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Snow Grouch<BR>To: "Vision 2020" <vision2020@moscow.com><BR>Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 7:28 AM<BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Saundra wrote:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff>"Those with honest-to-God legitimate excuses aren't the ones who are the problems."</FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>For example, along West A Street: Superior Floor Products, The Renaissance Mall, U City Rentals property under construction, <SPAN>et</SPAN> al.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Yes, a lot of people have little or no choice but to walk, and we ought be encouraging as many people as possible to walk. I agree about hypocritical Moscow whose high flown words do not match their actions, not only in this instance, but in others, e.g. traffic. bicycle, and pedestrian laws enforcement. Some officers from both the two local law enforcement agencies in Moscow not only do not enforce these laws, but are violators themselves.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>A new mayor, city council, city manager, and director of public works are certainly part of the solution to these and other problems.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>I feel very fortunate to be served by the North Latah Highway District, who not only does a stellar job in winter, but does it in the shamefully small hours of the morning so that people can get to work on time, that the school buses can operate on time, and the morning papers can be delivered on time.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A title=sslund_2007@verizon.net href="mailto:sslund_2007@verizon.net" target=_blank rel=nofollow>Saundra Lund</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=chasuk@gmail.com href="mailto:chasuk@gmail.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow>'Chasuk'</A> ; <A title=thansen@moscow.com href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow>thansen@moscow.com</A> ; <A title=kcraine@verizon.net href="mailto:kcraine@verizon.net" target=_blank rel=nofollow>kcraine@verizon.net</A> ; <A title=mattd2107@hotmail.com href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow>mattd2107@hotmail.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow>vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 29, 2008 11:31 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Snow Grouch</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Chas wrote:<BR>"Let's have some compassion, folks."<BR><BR>Yes, let's *do* have some compassion for those who either by necessity or<BR>care for the environment or choice are left to negotiate on foot or bike<BR>those incredibly dangerous sidewalks that remain unshoveled/uncleared for<BR>days & weeks at a time.<BR><BR>While driving home from work or school -- in a car with heat -- in far less<BR>time than those on foot, let's *think* about those braving the dangerous<BR>sidewalks day in & day out on their ways home from work or school or picking<BR>up their prescriptions or buying their groceries. Suddenly having to shovel<BR>in the dark doesn't seem like such a burden, does it?<BR><BR>Let's have compassion for those who fall and are injured because some people<BR>think they have more important things to than live up to what it means to be<BR>a member of a community.<BR><BR>I have plenty of compassion for those who genuinely
have difficulty keeping<BR>sidewalks clear for legitimate health reasons, but guess what? Those with<BR>honest-to-God legitimate excuses aren't the ones who are the problems. And,<BR>quite frankly, I am sick & tired of the excuses for uncleared sidewalks some<BR>people are inclined to trot out each winter.<BR><BR>Further, I'm sick and d*mn tired of living in a City with a budget the size<BR>of Moscow's that claims to have "green" aspirations and be pedestrian<BR>friendly yet turns a blind eye winter after winter. Shame on our city<BR>administration.<BR><BR>Yeah, I've found myself negotiating some dangerous sidewalks every winter,<BR>but more importantly, I have loved ones who either *have* to do it on a<BR>daily/weekly basis or become literally shut in and unable to work to pay<BR>their rent or mortgages or utilities or buy their groceries during the<BR>winter. That's just shameful.<BR><BR>Kit, I'd like to take this
opportunity to *thank you* for your efforts to<BR>get the City to take this issue seriously. Other cities & towns manage to<BR>do a great job of managing the problem -- what the heck is wrong that we<BR>can't?<BR><BR>Maybe it's the attitude of the few so quick to make endless excuses . . . <BR><BR><BR>Saundra Lund<BR>Moscow, ID<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: <A href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow>vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</A> [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com]<BR>On Behalf Of Chasuk<BR>Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 9:00 PM<BR>To: <A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow>thansen@moscow.com</A>; <A href="mailto:kcraine@verizon.net" target=_blank rel=nofollow>kcraine@verizon.net</A>; <A href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow>mattd2107@hotmail.com</A><BR>Cc: <A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target=_blank
rel=nofollow>vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Snow Grouch<BR><BR>This is a problem that doesn't have an easy solution. Not everyone<BR>who fails to clear their public easement within 24 hour is a scofflaw.<BR> Shoveling isn't easy for everyone. Whether because of obesity, age,<BR>illness, injury, or other infirmity, not everyone is capable of doing<BR>it. For those who are capable, the 24-hour requirement, while<BR>seemingly reasonable, isn't always enough time. Combine work and<BR>sleep, and maybe school, and you are left shoveling in the dark.<BR>Maybe you are visiting family during the holidays. Maybe you have no<BR>family or friends who can help, or they can't help precisely according<BR>to schedule. Maybe paying your rent and your mortgage is already<BR>tight, and you have to decide which is more important, paying someone<BR>to shovel your snow, or buying groceries. Maybe charity
is<BR>embarrassing for you, or you don't know where to seek it.<BR><BR>Let's have some compassion, folks.<BR><BR>=======================================================<BR> List services made available by First Step Internet, <BR> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <BR> <A href="http://www.fsr.net/" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.fsr.net</A> <BR> <A href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow>mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR>=======================================================<BR><BR>=======================================================<BR> List services made available by First Step Internet, <BR> serving
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