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<DIV><FONT size=2>Joe,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>We may all have irrational beliefs. However, the point
Chasuk via Freud was making is this:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Part of becoming an adult is to begin weighing evidence to
decide if <STRONG>important<FONT size=4>*</FONT></STRONG> beliefs are really
true; and to begin weighing the evidence for our <STRONG>important<FONT
size=4>*</FONT></STRONG> beliefs when they are challenged by evidence and logic,
as in this forum, or by reflection and/or direct experience.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>As for making fun of people's beliefs, religious or otherwise,
a lot of great literature does just that. Should we just throw this
literature away? Is it somehow unworthy because it uses humor to make
a point about various irrationalities?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Further, some religious beliefs are very harmful, for example,
those that led to the inquisition, those that support clitoridectomy or witch
hunts, and those that promulgate racism, homophobia, sexism, ethnic
discrimination, theocracy, etc. If humor can be used as a tactic to
emasculate/eviscerate/point out the folly these toxic beliefs, why
not? Humor often works in persuasive discourse when other methods
fail.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>[Not sent from an iPhone.]</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>W.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><STRONG><FONT size=4>*</FONT></STRONG>Beliefs that shape and
determine our actions especially when the outcome of these beliefs affects,
directly or indirectly, other sentient beings.</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=josephc@wsu.edu href="mailto:josephc@wsu.edu">Joseph Campbell</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=chasuk@gmail.com
href="mailto:chasuk@gmail.com">Chasuk</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> ; <A
title=nielsen@uidaho.edu
href="mailto:nielsen@uidaho.edu">nielsen@uidaho.edu</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 30, 2008 7:31
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Fragments of
our Lord</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I don't think think it is good to make fun of people's beliefs
- <BR>religious or otherwise - just for the sake of making fun. All of
us <BR>have irrational beliefs since we have far more beliefs than we
could <BR>possibly support with argument and evidence.<BR><BR>Sent from
my iPhone<BR><BR>On Dec 29, 2008, at 4:58 PM, Chasuk <<A
href="mailto:chasuk@gmail.com">chasuk@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR><BR>> I
agree with Freud, and with Paul.<BR>><BR>> Paul wrote:<BR>><BR>> 1
Corinthians 13:11-12<BR>><BR>> When I was a child, I spake as a child, I
understood as a child, I<BR>> thought as a child: but when I became a man,
I put away childish<BR>> things.<BR>> For now we see through a glass,
darkly; but then face to face: now I<BR>> know in part; but then shall I
know even as also I am known.<BR>><BR>> Freud believed that religion was
a transitional stage between the<BR>> childhood and the adult phases of
human development; that, as a<BR>> species, we currently see "through a
glass, darkly," but that it is<BR>> now time for us to "put away childish
things."<BR>><BR>> Amen!<BR>><BR>>
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