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Perhaps the good reverend simply believes that the communion host is a symbol of the death and resurrection of Christ, as Christians do, and therefore worries about propriety to a degree greater than those who don't believe.<BR>
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Roman Catholics believe that the wafer, sanctified at Mass by the priest, somehow "transubstantiates" to become the body of Christ; Lutherans believe that the body of Christ is incorporated into the host; others, including evangelicals, believe that the wafer is a physical, non-sacred but important symbol that represents the work of Christ on the cross and from the tomb. Those of the Federal Vision tend to ascribe salvific or near-salvific power (meaning "it saves") to communion, and virtually all Christians would deny that.<BR>
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This minister is pious, not mentally ill. <BR><BR>Keely<BR>http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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From: deco@moscow.com<BR>To: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 15:32:39 -0800<BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fragments of our Lord<BR><BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>It's hard to say what the good reverend was thinking when he made the statement:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT style="FONT: 13px Courier" face=Courier color=#0000ff size=4>"It doesn't crumb, and I don't like fragments of our Lord scattering all over the floor."</FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Because he is a privileged man, is it the housecleaning part that he doesn't like? </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Are fragments of our alleged Lord in the form of crackers especially difficult to sweep or to vacuum? </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Or are these fragments really flesh and blood, and therefore clog and make a general mess out of the insides of vacuum cleaners?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Is the good reverend worried that because the alleged Lord has become fragmentized that like the king's men dealing with humpty Dumpty, the alleged Lord will not be put back together again? But doesn't the same problem arise when people eat these fragments that are allegedly part of the body of the alleged Lord? Don't some parts of these fragments become parts of bodies, or alternatively end up in sewer lagoons? Wouldn't it be a much more formidable task to reassemble these ingested fragments to reconstitute the alleged Lord than working with fragments that are just sweepings?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Or does the good reverend have a much deeper problem distinguishing fantasy from reality, and therefore in need the services of a competent mental health professional?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Puzzled,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>W.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=nielsen@uidaho.edu href="mailto:nielsen@uidaho.edu">Ralph Nielsen</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=errancy@iierrancy.com href="mailto:errancy@iierrancy.com">errancy@iierrancy.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 26, 2008 6:33 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Fragments of our Lord</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>NIELSEN
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<DIV><FONT style="FONT: 13px Courier" face=Courier size=4>QUOTATION OF THE DAY: The New York Times </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT style="FONT: 13px Courier" face=Courier size=4>"It doesn't crumb, and I don't like fragments of our Lord scattering all over the floor."</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT style="FONT: 13px Courier" face=Courier size=4>THE REV. BOB DIETEL, about communion wafers manufactured by the Cavenaugh Company in Greenville, R.I.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><br /><hr />It’s the same Hotmail®. If by “same” you mean up to 70% faster. <a href='http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broad1_122008' target='_new'>Get your account now.</a></body>
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