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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>The most amusing aspect of the whole shoes of outrage
incident is that the opinionated lil' feller felt comfortable
enough to act out. Had our brave voice of the people attempted a
similar stunt pre GW's little modification to the countries ruling hierarchy, he
would most likely be being sponged out of the discharge chute of an
industrial chipper shredder, or dipped in a vat of acid, or repeatedly tossed
off the second story of the local police station, or had some of his favorite
body parts removed, or if he was extremely lucky, simply
shot. Slightly less lucky and his family would join him in his fate. Boy,
did we ever mess things up over there!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>g</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=sunilramalingam@hotmail.com
href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">Sunil Ramalingam</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision 2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 16, 2008 5:34
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Shoes thrown at
President Bush</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Donovan,<BR><BR>I don't give a rat's ass about this guy's
citizenship; now that's a red herring. I can see that he wasn't attacked
by a foreigner, since it looks like the guy was an Iraqi in his own
country.<BR><BR>I am perturbed that he was able to get the second shoe off,
and I don't recommend people throw shoes at presidents, or most other
people. I also don't think they should be killed for doing
it.<BR><BR>What I am least concerned about, and what I find remarkable, is the
notion that our sovereignty was threatened. When we start showing
respect for the sovereignty of other states, I may come to see our own
sovereignty has a delicate flower in need of protection. You can keep
repeating your concern, and I'll still find it either meaningless or
ludicrous. Important issue my foot. That guy wasn't making a statement
about sovereignty, he was illustrating his view of Bush.<BR><BR>Worrying that
our sovereignty was somehow threatened strikes me like worrying about Rush
Limbaugh's ego should he hear a criticism of his views.<BR><BR>As far as
tempting us, apparently they did that by having oil under their ground.
<BR><BR>Sunil<BR><BR>
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Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:01:52 -0800<BR>From:
donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com<BR>To: vision2020@moscow.com;
tiedye@turbonet.com<BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Shoes thrown at President
Bush<BR><BR>
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<DIV>Dave and Sunil,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>What is clear is that you are not bothered by an attempt to assault
the President of the United States by someone that is not a US
Citizen.</DIV>
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<DIV>It doesn't matter if the US President is assaulted by a foreigner
on his soil or ours. It is still an attack on US
<STRONG>Sovereignty</STRONG>. That is the point. If you missed that, I
will repeat it; It doesn't matter if the US President is assaulted by a
foreigner on his soil or ours. Is is still an attack on US
<SPAN><STRONG>Sovereignty</STRONG>.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>I think focusing on the fact that the US base was in Iraq, is
a big smelly red herring intentionally thrown into to the argument
to avert away from the important issue of US security and sovereignty,
which is what is being challenged. </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>And yes, Sunil, Middle Eastern nations do need to be careful
about how they behave because the US has no qualms about
blowing people up or invading nations. It is idiotic for a people to
tempt and taunt those with the biggest weapons that are also
willing to use them. </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Best Regards,</DIV>
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<DIV>Donovan<BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 12/16/08, Dave
<I><tiedye@turbonet.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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Dave <tiedye@turbonet.com><BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Shoes
thrown at President Bush<BR>To: "vision2020"
<vision2020@moscow.com><BR>Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008,
8:14 AM<BR><BR><PRE>Donovan Arnold wrote:<BR>> I meant, <SPAN><SPAN><SPAN><SPAN><SPAN>Sunil</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN>, that the guy who attacked the US President was not a US<BR>Citizen. I guess you can play semantics if you want, but I think my meaning was<BR>clear. <BR>><BR>> <BR>Quite clear: you think that the USA owns the world.<BR><BR>Dave<BR><BR><BR>-- <BR>Windows, <SPAN>OSX</SPAN>, or Linux is the same choice as:<BR>McDonalds, Burger King, or a (real) Co-Op.<BR><BR>=======================================================<BR> List services made available by First Step Internet, <BR> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <BR> http://www.fsr.net <BR> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<BR>=======================================================<BR></PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR>
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