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Glenn wrote to Sunil: "Let's hope I don't get in some kind of legal jam and need<br> you as an attorney to argue Constitutional law to the judge on my<br> behalf."<br><br>I think you're better off with Sunil arguing Constitutional law than you are with a pastor attempting to argue that the Constitution doesn't describe what jurists would later describe as a "wall of separation" between church and state, and who also considers all outside his brand of Judeo-Christian civic expression to be nothing more than a worship service for "secular humanism."<br><br>Of course, better to have that man as a pastor than to be him.<br><br>Keely<br>http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/<br><br><br><br><br>> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:18:16 -0800<br>> From: vpschwaller@gmail.com<br>> To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Intoleristas<br>> <br>> I will submit that your definition of what is applicable or not is<br>> pretty narrow and inflexible (not to mention plain wrong in my humble<br>> opinion). Let's hope I don't get in some kind of legal jam and need<br>> you as an attorney to argue Constitutional law to the judge on my<br>> behalf.<br>> <br>> GS<br>> <br>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Sunil Ramalingam<br>> <sunilramalingam@hotmail.com> wrote:<br>> > No, Glenns, this just means that your 'interpretation' is different from<br>> > that which is applicable.<br>> ><br>> > Sunil<br>> ><br>> >> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 11:50:49 -0800<br>> >> From: vpschwaller@gmail.com<br>> >> To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>> >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Intoleristas<br>> >><br>> >> Tem Moffett refers to "a basic US Constitutional principle, the<br>> >> separation of church and state." Hmmm . . . I wasn't aware this was<br>> >> a basic US Constitutional principle. This idea is nothing more than<br>> >> complete metaphorical misrepresentation of the basic premise of the<br>> >> establishment clause, "Congress shall make no law respecting an<br>> >> establishment of religion. . ."<br>> >><br>> >> This has become a major distortion thanks to the "interpretation" of<br>> >> laws (and in many instance the out and out making of laws) by the<br>> >> liberal side of the Supreme Court. The establishment clause was<br>> >> designed to prevent the establishment of a "state religion", not<br>> >> Christian Theism. As a result of the Supreme Court's work, we are<br>> >> witnessing the gradual obliteration of Christian Theism and the<br>> >> establishment of laws promoting humanism as a "state religion".<br>> >><br>> >> Is this not exactly what the establishment clause in our constitution<br>> >> was intended to prevent? The Constitution is now allowing the<br>> >> government to force "nonconformists" to accept and live by "humanism".<br>> >> A definite turnabout of the true nature of our First Amendment<br>> >> rights.<br>> >><br>> >> GS<br>> >><br>> >> On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 7:18 PM, Scott Dredge <scooterd408@hotmail.com><br>> >> wrote:<br>> >> >> Paul wrote:<br>> >> >> I thought Doug and Dale had<br>> >> >> libertarian tendencies. I would have thought they would be as much<br>> >> >> against gaming the system as I am, because it props up those who are by<br>> >> >> definition unworthy of being at the top.<br>> >> >><br>> >> ><br>> >> > This could spark a long debate and likely one that has been played out<br>> >> > time<br>> >> > and again on the viz as well as both Dale's and Doug's sites especially<br>> >> > on<br>> >> > the topic of 501c3 non-profits and downtown parking where Doug claims<br>> >> > 'religious persecution by Interolistas' if anyone delves into the<br>> >> > validity<br>> >> > of these entities - specifically that they are not operating in manner<br>> >> > that<br>> >> > is 'gaming the system'.<br>> >> ><br>> >> > Doug and Dale do have libertarian leanings and want less to no<br>> >> > government<br>> >> > except for the most personal of personal issues (abortion, birth<br>> >> > control,<br>> >> > premarital sex, homosexuality, etc.) where they want a police state to<br>> >> > intervene and prevent whatever they deem as 'sinful'.<br>> >> ><br>> >> > BTW, I consider you a middle of the roader like me who is probably just<br>> >> > as<br>> >> > critical of the extreme left as you are of the extreme right. Your<br>> >> > writings<br>> >> > typically make logical sense to me.<br>> >> ><br>> >> > -Scott<br>> >> ><br>> >> ><br>> >> > ________________________________<br>> >> > Windows Live Hotmail now works up to 70% faster. 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