Kai --<br><br>They've got the right to decide what's acceptable and unacceptable. But there are certain things that we have enshrined in our Constitution as being more important than other particular things. You conservatives want to go after the federal 14th Amendment? I'll take that bet.<br>
<br>Incidentally, virtually this exact case has been heard once in the past -- by the US Supreme Court. We won last time*.<br><br>-- ACS<br><br>(1) <a href="http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=387&invol=369">http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=387&invol=369</a><br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Kai Eiselein, Editor <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:editor@lataheagle.com">editor@lataheagle.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<div><font size="2">Do societies not have the right to decide what is acceptable
and what isn't?</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Why not make polygamy legal? </font></div>
<div><font size="2">Why not let brothers marry sisters or first cousins marry
first cousins? (Other than the inbreeding issue) </font></div>
<div><font size="2">Why not just make an amendment stating a marriage can be
between ANY consenting adults? That would be the best way, wouldn't
it?</font></div>
<div><font size="2">I can just hear the champagne corks popping as divorce lawyers
celebrate the thought of multiple wives divorcing a husband.</font></div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="josephc@wsu.edu" href="mailto:josephc@wsu.edu" target="_blank">Joseph Campbell</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 20, 2008 11:57 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="editor@lataheagle.com" href="mailto:editor@lataheagle.com" target="_blank">Kai Eiselein, Editor</a> ; <a title="kjajmix1@msn.com" href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com" target="_blank">kjajmix1@msn.com</a> ; <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a> ; <a title="thansen@moscow.com" href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">Tom Hansen</a> </div>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] California Supreme Court to Take Up Gay
Marriage</div></div></div></div></div><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">
<div><br></div><font face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span style="font-size: 12px;">According to Wikipedia, "</span></font><font size="4"><font face="Helvetica, Verdana, Arial"><span style="font-size: 13px;"><b>Due process</b> (more fully <b>due process of
law</b>) is the principle that the government must respect all of the legal
rights that are owed to a person according to the <font color="#002bb8">law of the
land</font>, instead of respecting merely some or most of those legal rights."
<br><br>Do you think that rights are better served by allowing the general
public to decide who has the right to speak, to vote, to wed? If to wed, then
why not to speak? Why shouldn't the general public be allowed to determine
whether or not you have the right to speak?<br><br>I'm trying to bring the issue
home to something you might relate to personally. Something to engage your
empathetic imagination.<br></span></font></font><font face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span style="font-size: 12px;"><br><br>On
11/20/08 11:37 AM, "Kai Eiselein, Editor" <<a href="mailto:editor@lataheagle.com" target="_blank">editor@lataheagle.com</a>>
wrote:<br><br></span></font>
<blockquote><font face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span style="font-size: 12px;">I'm going to play Devil's advocate for a moment, and
to be clear I don't give a rip about gay marriage one way or another. Hey, if
if gay couples want to keep divorce lawyers in business by forking over
thousands of dollars in fees and spend months going to hearing after hearing
after hearing, well, welcome to the hetero world. Toss in a child or two and
becomes even more fun. <br><i>...No State shall make or enforce any law which
shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United
States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property,
without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the
equal protection of the laws."<br></i>Doesn't a referendum come under "due
process"?<br><br>--------------------------------------------------<br>From:
"Tom Hansen" <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a>><br>Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008
11:16 AM<br>To: <<a href="mailto:editor@lataheagle.com" target="_blank">editor@lataheagle.com</a>>; <<a href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com" target="_blank">kjajmix1@msn.com</a>>;
<<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] California Supreme
Court to Take Up Gay Marriage<br><br>>>From Article 6 of the US
Constitution -<br>> <br>> "This Constitution, and the Laws of the United
States which shall be made <br>> in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties
made, or which shall be made, under <br>> the Authority of the United
States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; <br>> and the Judges in every
State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the <br>> Constitution or Laws
of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding."<br>> <br>>
-------------------<br>> <br>>>From the 14th Amendment to the US
Constitution -<br>> <br>> "All persons born or naturalized in the United
States, and subject to the <br>> jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the
United States and of the State <br>> wherein they reside. No State shall
make or enforce any law which shall <br>> abridge the privileges or
immunities of citizens of the United States; nor <br>> shall any State
deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without <br>> due process
of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the <br>> equal
protection of the laws."<br>> <br>>
-------------------------------------<br>> <br>> Now, which part of the
US Constitution are you struggling with, Kai?<br>> <br>> Tom
Hansen<br>> Moscow,<br>> Idaho<br>> <br>>
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Eiselein<br>Editor, Latah Eagle<br><br>
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