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I've said before that I deplore the idea that somehow Muslims aren't to be trusted or are a dangerous choice for this or any other elected office. But it's a moot point here -- Obama isn't Muslim, and that's what I'm trying to demonstrate.<br><br>Keely<br>http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/<br><br><br><hr>From: donaledwards@hotmail.com<br>To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:54:51 -0700<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Muslim<br><br>
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<br>What difference does it make if Obama was or is a Muslim? Are all Muslim's fringe level terrorists? This site seems to sum it up pretty well (and not surprising that the basic tenements are in line with most every other religion) even though it shouldn't matter what religion the president is as we should expect that he would focus on what he's been hired to do: ensure the well being and rights of those who can't take care of themselves.<br>
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Don<br><em><font size="3" face="Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif"></font></em> <br><br><br>> From: vision2020-request@moscow.com<br>> Subject: Vision2020 Digest, Vol 28, Issue 340<br>> To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:30:15 -0700<br>> <br>> Send Vision2020 mailing list submissions to<br>> vision2020@moscow.com<br>> <br>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br>> http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/vision2020<br>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br>> vision2020-request@moscow.com<br>> <br>> You can reach the person managing the list at<br>> vision2020-owner@moscow.com<br>> <br>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>> than "Re: Contents of Vision2020 digest..."<br>> <br>> <br>> Today's Topics:<br>> <br>> 1. Red State Update: Bill Ayers (Tom Hansen)<br>> 2. Re: Clerk left letters calling Obama "black Hitler"<br>> (keely emerinemix)<br>> 3. Re: Clerk left letters calling Obama "black Hitler"<br>> (No Weatherman)<br>> 4. Re: Palin Appointed Friends and Donors to Key Posts in<br>> (No Weatherman)<br>> <br>> <br>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 1<br>> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:11:35 GMT<br>> From: Tom Hansen <thansen@moscow.com><br>> Subject: [Vision2020] Red State Update: Bill Ayers<br>> To: Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> Message-ID: <200810241811.m9OIBcsF097725@mail-gw.fsr.net><br>> <br>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxQ8hWekypY<br>> <br>> Seeya at Farmers' Market and the Homecoming Parade, Moscow.<br>> <br>> Tom Hansen<br>> Moscow, Idaho<br>> <br>> "We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The college <br>> students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."<br>> <br>> - Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)<br>> <br>> <br>> ---------------------------------------------<br>> This message was sent by First Step Internet.<br>> http://www.fsr.com/<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 2<br>> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:14:35 -0700<br>> From: keely emerinemix <kjajmix1@msn.com><br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Clerk left letters calling Obama "black<br>> Hitler"<br>> To: No Weatherman <no.weatherman@gmail.com>, Vision 2020<br>> <vision2020@moscow.com><br>> Message-ID: <COL110-W40214374D13D17AA06E299822B0@phx.gbl><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"<br>> <br>> <br>> Barack Obama is no kind of Muslim. Not Black Muslim, radical Muslim, cradle-Muslim, Democrat Muslim, or any other kind of Muslim. His confession of Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, while not automatically meaning he's a Christian, damned sure means he isn't Muslim.<br>> <br>> Keely<br>> http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/<br>> <br>> <br>> > Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:05:35 -0700<br>> > From: no.weatherman@gmail.com<br>> > To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Clerk left letters calling Obama "black Hitler"<br>> > <br>> > ACS:<br>> > <br>> > Thanks for asking. I'll take your list one at a time.<br>> > <br>> > "incompetent"<br>> > No, I think he's "lying" when he denies that he never heard Wright's<br>> > racist rants in the pulpit. I think he heard every single word and he<br>> > agreed with all of it, and that's why he stuck around for 20 years and<br>> > funneled money to the cause. Can you think of another explanation?<br>> > <br>> > "inexperienced"<br>> > I don't remember using this word ? I have pointed to his primary<br>> > executive experience at CAC and repeated Kurtz's observation that he<br>> > wrote two memoirs and neither one of them mentions his primary<br>> > executive experience where he blew millions of dollars in a failed<br>> > mission.<br>> > <br>> > "radical black Muslim"<br>> > Black Muslims don't need the modifier "radical." It's redundant. And<br>> > I'm not sure if he's a Black Muslim or a radical Muslim. His<br>> > background and associates suggest radical.<br>> > <br>> > "communist"<br>> > As long as you spell it the way Ayers does ? he says "I'm a small 'c'<br>> > communist." Does this bother you?<br>> > <br>> > "terrorist"<br>> > Just because he pals around with domestic terrorists and just because<br>> > his benefactor at Harvard finances jihad terrorist organizations does<br>> > not mean that he's a terrorist.<br>> > <br>> > "drug addict"<br>> > The only drug addiction that I know about is his 20 year addiction to<br>> > nicotine. Do you know of another?<br>> > <br>> > "not a US Citizen"<br>> > I don't think he's managed to cover anything up but I am certain that<br>> > he has not answered the question about his natural born citizenship.<br>> > Btw, why have you decided to imitate Ms Mix and Ms Lund by conflating<br>> > USC with NBC?<br>> > <br>> > I answered your question now please answer mine.<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Andreas Schou <ophite@gmail.com> wrote:<br>> > > NW --<br>> > ><br>> > > Oh. So your thesis is that Obama is an incompetent, inexperienced radical<br>> > > black Muslim communist terrorist drug addict who has nonetheless managed to<br>> > > cover up both these facts and the fact that he is not a US cItizen.<br>> > ><br>> > > -- ACS<br>> > ><br>> > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 8:47 AM, No Weatherman <no.weatherman@gmail.com><br>> > > wrote:<br>> > >><br>> > >> The Negro doesn't scare me.<br>> > >><br>> > >> The Black Muslim does.<br>> > >><br>> > >><br>> > >> On 10/24/08, Chuck Kovis <ckovis@turbonet.com> wrote:<br>> > >> > Weatherman, this morning on Fox TV I saw hundreds of people in Florida<br>> > >> > lining up to vote. And you know what? They all looked like people who<br>> > >> > were<br>> > >> > at the Democratic Convention. They was white, black and Latino and<br>> > >> > Asian.<br>> > >> > Think they were lining up to vote for "Winking Sarah?" Don't you wish?<br>> > >> > But<br>> > >> > then, on my way in from Deary this morning, I didn't see any al kyda<br>> > >> > guys.<br>> > >> > I might vote for McCain after all. He'll keep me safe like Bush and<br>> > >> > Cheney<br>> > >> > not like that scary Negro. Chuck Kovis<br>> > >> ><br>> > >> ><br>> > >> ><br>> > >> > =======================================================<br>> > >> > List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>> > >> > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br>> > >> > http://www.fsr.net<br>> > >> > mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > >> > =======================================================<br>> > >> ><br>> > >><br>> > >> =======================================================<br>> > >> List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>> > >> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br>> > >> http://www.fsr.net<br>> > >> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > >> =======================================================<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > <br>> > =======================================================<br>> > List services made available by First Step Internet, <br>> > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <br>> > http://www.fsr.net <br>> > mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > =======================================================<br>> <br>> _________________________________________________________________<br>> Want to read Hotmail messages in Outlook? The Wordsmiths show you how.<br>> http://windowslive.com/connect/post/wedowindowslive.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!20EE04FBC541789!167.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_092008<br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/attachments/20081024/54c240fd/attachment-0001.html <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 3<br>> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:28:13 -0700<br>> From: "No Weatherman" <no.weatherman@gmail.com><br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Clerk left letters calling Obama "black<br>> Hitler"<br>> To: "Vision 2020" <vision2020@moscow.com><br>> Message-ID:<br>> <28a621640810241128r4061710dr2dcf7fd44e821d84@mail.gmail.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252<br>> <br>> Ms. Mix:<br>> <br>> Your assertion has a non sequitur: "His confession of Jesus Christ as<br>> Lord and Savior, while not automatically meaning he's a Christian,<br>> damned sure means he isn't Muslim."<br>> <br>> This is the condensed version: "His confession of Jesus Christ as Lord<br>> and Savior damned sure means he isn't Muslim."<br>> <br>> You're arguing that the two propositions are mutually exclusive and<br>> not leaving room for the most obvious explanation that accounts for<br>> all of Obama's inconsistencies ? HE'S LYING.<br>> <br>> Please tell me why "His confession of Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior<br>> damned sure means he isn't a Muslim."<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:14 AM, keely emerinemix <kjajmix1@msn.com> wrote:<br>> > Barack Obama is no kind of Muslim. Not Black Muslim, radical Muslim,<br>> > cradle-Muslim, Democrat Muslim, or any other kind of Muslim. His confession<br>> > of Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, while not automatically meaning he's a<br>> > Christian, damned sure means he isn't Muslim.<br>> ><br>> > Keely<br>> > http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/<br>> ><br>> ><br>> >> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:05:35 -0700<br>> >> From: no.weatherman@gmail.com<br>> >> To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>> >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Clerk left letters calling Obama "black Hitler"<br>> >><br>> >> ACS:<br>> >><br>> >> Thanks for asking. I'll take your list one at a time.<br>> >><br>> >> "incompetent"<br>> >> No, I think he's "lying" when he denies that he never heard Wright's<br>> >> racist rants in the pulpit. I think he heard every single word and he<br>> >> agreed with all of it, and that's why he stuck around for 20 years and<br>> >> funneled money to the cause. Can you think of another explanation?<br>> >><br>> >> "inexperienced"<br>> >> I don't remember using this word ? I have pointed to his primary<br>> >> executive experience at CAC and repeated Kurtz's observation that he<br>> >> wrote two memoirs and neither one of them mentions his primary<br>> >> executive experience where he blew millions of dollars in a failed<br>> >> mission.<br>> >><br>> >> "radical black Muslim"<br>> >> Black Muslims don't need the modifier "radical." It's redundant. And<br>> >> I'm not sure if he's a Black Muslim or a radical Muslim. His<br>> >> background and associates suggest radical.<br>> >><br>> >> "communist"<br>> >> As long as you spell it the way Ayers does ? he says "I'm a small 'c'<br>> >> communist." Does this bother you?<br>> >><br>> >> "terrorist"<br>> >> Just because he pals around with domestic terrorists and just because<br>> >> his benefactor at Harvard finances jihad terrorist organizations does<br>> >> not mean that he's a terrorist.<br>> >><br>> >> "drug addict"<br>> >> The only drug addiction that I know about is his 20 year addiction to<br>> >> nicotine. Do you know of another?<br>> >><br>> >> "not a US Citizen"<br>> >> I don't think he's managed to cover anything up but I am certain that<br>> >> he has not answered the question about his natural born citizenship.<br>> >> Btw, why have you decided to imitate Ms Mix and Ms Lund by conflating<br>> >> USC with NBC?<br>> >><br>> >> I answered your question now please answer mine.<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Andreas Schou <ophite@gmail.com> wrote:<br>> >> > NW --<br>> >> ><br>> >> > Oh. So your thesis is that Obama is an incompetent, inexperienced<br>> >> > radical<br>> >> > black Muslim communist terrorist drug addict who has nonetheless managed<br>> >> > to<br>> >> > cover up both these facts and the fact that he is not a US cItizen.<br>> >> ><br>> >> > -- ACS<br>> >> ><br>> >> > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 8:47 AM, No Weatherman <no.weatherman@gmail.com><br>> >> > wrote:<br>> >> >><br>> >> >> The Negro doesn't scare me.<br>> >> >><br>> >> >> The Black Muslim does.<br>> >> >><br>> >> >><br>> >> >> On 10/24/08, Chuck Kovis <ckovis@turbonet.com> wrote:<br>> >> >> > Weatherman, this morning on Fox TV I saw hundreds of people in<br>> >> >> > Florida<br>> >> >> > lining up to vote. And you know what? They all looked like people who<br>> >> >> > were<br>> >> >> > at the Democratic Convention. They was white, black and Latino and<br>> >> >> > Asian.<br>> >> >> > Think they were lining up to vote for "Winking Sarah?" Don't you<br>> >> >> > wish?<br>> >> >> > But<br>> >> >> > then, on my way in from Deary this morning, I didn't see any al kyda<br>> >> >> > guys.<br>> >> >> > I might vote for McCain after all. He'll keep me safe like Bush and<br>> >> >> > Cheney<br>> >> >> > not like that scary Negro. Chuck Kovis<br>> >> >> ><br>> >> >> ><br>> >> >> ><br>> >> >> > =======================================================<br>> >> >> > List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>> >> >> > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br>> >> >> > http://www.fsr.net<br>> >> >> > mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> >> >> > =======================================================<br>> >> >> ><br>> >> >><br>> >> >> =======================================================<br>> >> >> List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>> >> >> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br>> >> >> http://www.fsr.net<br>> >> >> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> >> >> =======================================================<br>> >> ><br>> >> ><br>> >><br>> >> =======================================================<br>> >> List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>> >> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br>> >> http://www.fsr.net<br>> >> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> >> =======================================================<br>> ><br>> > ________________________________<br>> > Want to read Hotmail messages in Outlook? The Wordsmiths show you how. Learn<br>> > Now<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 4<br>> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:30:15 -0700<br>> From: "No Weatherman" <no.weatherman@gmail.com><br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Palin Appointed Friends and Donors to Key<br>> Posts in<br>> To: "Vision 2020" <vision2020@moscow.com><br>> Message-ID:<br>> <28a621640810241130h4ad3c80bmf809f2d551b72311@mail.gmail.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br>> <br>> Did they ship you the doll overnight?<br>> <br>> Have you used it yet?<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Tom Hansen <thansen@moscow.com> wrote:<br>> > Kai -<br>> ><br>> > You really ought to read past the headlines. From the article:<br>> ><br>> > "Most new governors install friends and supporters in state jobs. But<br>> > Alaska historians say some of Palin's appointees were less qualified than<br>> > those of her Republican and Democratic predecessors."<br>> ><br>> > You know. Like appointed a classmate chum to Secretary of Agriculture and<br>> > Conservation, "a farm regulatory position that by state law must go to<br>> > people with strong business experience", becuase she "had cited among her<br>> > qualifications for the job a childhood love of cows".<br>> ><br>> > And so many, many others.<br>> ><br>> > Tell me, Kai. 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