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Tom,<br><br>I think it's fair to ask Roger to substantiate his claim re. Ayers. But since he's apologized for the accusation about Shirley, I think maybe we could leave that out from now on. Asides from inventing a time machine and changing the past, I'm not sure he can do anything else about it now.<br><br>Sunil<br><br>> To: lfalen@turbonet.com; sslund_2007@verizon.net; vision2020@moscow.com<br>> From: thansen@moscow.com<br>> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:34:19 +0000<br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Odd Lies Of Sarah Palin I: Firing Monegan<br>> <br>> I am afraid that I am going to have to call you on this one, Roger.<br>> <br>> Care to share with the Viz your indisputable proof that Barack Obama <br>> announced his candidacy for the Illinois state senate from Ayers' house?<br>> <br>> Or is this just another Shirley-Ringo-didn't-stand-for-the National-Anthem <br>> claim of yours?<br>> <br>> Tom Hansen<br>> Moscow, Idaho<br>> <br>> > Taking about lies. Obama said in his debate with McCain that he did not <br>> launch his<br>> political career in Bill Ayees home. It is well documented that he <br>> announced his plans to<br>> run for the sate senate at a fundraiser in Bill Ayers home.<br>> > Roger<br>> > -----Original message-----<br>> > From: "Saundra Lund" sslund_2007@verizon.net<br>> > Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 11:05:08 -0700<br>> > To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > Subject: [Vision2020] The Odd Lies Of Sarah Palin I: Firing Monegan<br>> > <br>> > > The Atlantic<br>> > > The Daily Dish<br>> > > Andrew Sullivan<br>> > > 18 Oct 2008 08:07 am<br>> > > <br>> > > The Odd Lies Of Sarah Palin I: Firing Monegan<br>> > > <br>> > > This weekend, I'll be re-posting all the factual untruths that Sarah <br>> Palin<br>> > > insists are still actually truths. I've updated each item to keep up <br>> with<br>> > > the new information that has come out since the original posting.<br>> > > <br>> > > I'm doing this because Sarah Palin's contribution is to introduce a new<br>> > > level of detachment from reality to our politics. After Bush-Cheney, <br>> this<br>> > > would be hard for anyone. But youbetcha she can.<br>> > > <br>> > > This has been the pattern from the start of her career: a denial of <br>> reality<br>> > > combined with an almost unhinged and unlimited ambition. Since the <br>> press is<br>> > > barred from questioning her thoroughly, since we will never know how <br>> she<br>> > > responds to the long list of untruths she has told - from the smallest<br>> > > biographical detail to the biggest policy - all I can do is remind my<br>> > > readers of the record one more time before November. There are nineteen<br>> > > assertions of factual untruths that I've been able to document.<br>> > > <br>> > > We'll start at the beginning, and Troopergate.<br>> > > <br>> > > The key issue is whether she used her state office to pressure the <br>> public<br>> > > safety commissioner to fire her ex-brother-in-law. Here's what she <br>> stated on<br>> > > the record in mid-July if this year: <br>> > > <br>> > > Palin stated on July 17 that Monegan was not pressured to fire Wooten, <br>> nor<br>> > > dismissed for not doing so:[114][117] "To allege that I, or any member <br>> of my<br>> > > family . . . directed disciplinary action be taken against any <br>> employee of<br>> > > the Department of Public Safety, is, quite simply, outrageous." <br>> > > <br>> > > Here's Wikipedia's account of the findings of the Branchflower Report, <br>> with<br>> > > links to the original sources:<br>> > > <br>> > > On October 10, 2008, the Alaska Legislative Council unanimously voted <br>> to<br>> > > release, without officially endorsing,[135] the Branchflower Report in <br>> which<br>> > > Stephen Branchflower found that firing Monegan "was a proper and lawful<br>> > > exercise of her constitutional and statutory authority,"[136] and that <br>> Palin<br>> > > abused her power as governor by violating the state's Executive Branch<br>> > > Ethics Act[137] when her office pressured Monegan to fire Wooten. The <br>> report<br>> > > stated that "Governor Palin knowingly permitted a situation to continue<br>> > > where impermissible pressure was placed on several subordinates in <br>> order to<br>> > > advance a personal agenda, to wit: to get Trooper Michael Wooten<br>> > > fired."[138] The report also said that Palin "permitted Todd Palin to <br>> use<br>> > > the Governor's office [...] to continue to contact subordinate state<br>> > > employees in an effort to find some way to get Trooper Wooten<br>> > > fired."[138][139]<br>> > > <br>> > > The eventual report found that she was within her legal rights to fire<br>> > > Monegan, but that her unethical persecution of her ex brother-in-law <br>> was a<br>> > > contributing factor to the firing. The report found her guilty of <br>> abuse of<br>> > > power and violation of Alaska's Ethics Act.<br>> > > <br>> > > http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/10/the-odd-<br>> lies--7<br>> > > .html<br>> > > <br>> > > <br>> > > =======================================================<br>> > > List services made available by First Step Internet, <br>> > > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <br>> > > http://www.fsr.net <br>> > > mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > > =======================================================<br>> > <br>> > =======================================================<br>> > List services made available by First Step Internet, <br>> > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <br>> > http://www.fsr.net <br>> > mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > =======================================================<br>> > <br>> <br>> <br>> "Jesus was a community organizer and Poncius Pilate was a governor."<br>> <br>> - Marilyn Trail, sister of Representative Tom trail (September 8, 2008)<br>> <br>> ----<br>> <br>> "We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The college <br>> students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."<br>> <br>> - Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)<br>> <br>> <br>> ---------------------------------------------<br>> This message was sent by First Step Internet.<br>> http://www.fsr.com/<br>> <br>> <br>> =======================================================<br>> List services made available by First Step Internet, <br>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <br>> http://www.fsr.net <br>> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> =======================================================<br></body>
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