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Look, Wayne, I'm aware the photo wasn't Crabtree, and I think 99.9 percent of Visionaires knew it, too. My point is that this is the kind of thing that drags us all down -- and yeah, that means when I do it, as you suggest. I'm not "casting the first stone" here; I'm just trying to move us along. Please recall that I've had an awful lot of flack from Gary, now from you. Just trying to keep it even.<br><br>Keely<br>http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/<br><br><br><hr>From: deco@moscow.com<br>To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:20:48 -0700<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Odd Lies Of Sarah Palin XII: Her PayCut AsMayor<br><br>
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<div><font face="Verdana">Kelly,</font></div>
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<div><font face="Verdana">Crabtree wrote:</font></div>
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<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Verdana">"...but that old familiar chestnut
concerning laying down with dogs wouldn't have endured the way it has were there
not a <strong><font color="#ff0000">serious</font></strong> dose of truth in
it." <font color="#000000">See context in Crabtree's post
below.</font></font></div>
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<div><font face="Verdana">Then read <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusional" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusional</a></font></div>
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<div><font face="Verdana">Draw your own conclusions.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Verdana">Crabtree makes a practice of name-calling and innuendo,
yesterday Saundra Lund, before that Joe Campbell, etc. What's good for the
goose is good for the gander as far as I am concerned. Further, some of
your recent posts commit the same sin against those whom you consider
unchristian. If you really are a Christian as you claim (I am not),
perhaps you ought figure out what the following means: <font color="#0000ff">"Let those who are without sin cast the first
stone."</font></font></div>
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<div><font face="Verdana">The whole point:</font></div>
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<div><font face="Verdana">Our country is really hurting. It is unnecessary
to list the details at this point. We have an election coming which will
determine what points of view will be used to attempt to mitigate at least some
of the problems we face. All this paranoid-delusional hate mongering by
Crabtree, his trolling homologue No Weatherman, and others of their
ilk detracts from the debate of which solutions to consider and which to
pursue, and is an egregious disservice to all those citizens wanting and seeking
answers to real problems. </font></div>
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<div><font face="Verdana">W.</font></div>
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<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">----- Original Message ----- </div>
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<a title="kjajmix1@msn.com" href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com">keely emerinemix</a>
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<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b> <a title="deco@moscow.com" href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art Deco</a> ; <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision 2020</a> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 20, 2008 8:52
AM</div>
<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Vision2020] The Odd Lies Of
Sarah Palin XII: Her PayCut AsMayor</div>
<div><br></div>Wayne, that sort of thing not only isn't helpful, but it's an
unfair shot at Crabtree. Knock it off.<br><br>Keely<br><a href="http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/</a><br><br><br>
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From: <a href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>Date: Sun, 19
Oct 2008 20:57:11 -0700<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Odd Lies Of Sarah
Palin XII: Her PayCut AsMayor<br><br>
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<div><font size="2">The post by Crabtree below serves as a timely but chilling
reminder that on December 13 at 7:00pm the Remington Community Civic
Organization will stage a production of Giacomo Puccini's great tragic opera
entitled <em>The Unbalanced Locksmith</em>.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2">W.</font></div>
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<a title="jampot@roadrunner.com" href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">g.
crabtree</a> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b>
<a title="godshatter@yahoo.com" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">Paul
Rumelhart</a> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Cc:</b>
<a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b>
Sunday, October 19, 2008 7:34 PM</div>
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Re: [Vision2020] The Odd Lies Of Sarah Palin XII: Her PayCut AsMayor</div>
<div><br></div>What I'm looking for is a candidate with enough character to
look out for <br>his own before he comes to me and puts the gun barrel of
the state up to my <br>head and "asks" for my help.<br><br>To my way of
thinking this entire thread that started with Ayers and <br>progressed
through Wright, Farrakhan, Odinga, Rezco, citizenship, and a host <br>of
other misc. admittedly nonmomentous topics all go back to giving an
<br>indication of bho's judgment and character. Let's face it, the guy's
resume <br>is extraordinarily thin and it's next to impossible to judge him
on his <br>accomplishments, as few as there are. There is no question but
what the man <br>talks a good game and as near as I can tell that is his
only real <br>qualification. Talk, as they say is cheap.<br><br>I know that
the "great minds" on this list dismiss questioning the company <br>one keeps
as a form of ad holmium attack but that old familiar chestnut <br>concerning
laying down with dogs wouldn't have endured the way it has were <br>there
not a serious dose of truth in it. I know you don't give a damn but,
<br>your "not a Jesus" has a serious case of fleas.<br><br>g<br>-----
Original Message ----- <br>From: "Paul Rumelhart" <<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>><br>To: "g.
crabtree" <<a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">jampot@roadrunner.com</a>><br>Cc: "No
Weatherman" <<a href="mailto:no.weatherman@gmail.com">no.weatherman@gmail.com</a>>;
<<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>><br>Sent:
Sunday, October 19, 2008 5:55 PM<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Odd Lies
Of Sarah Palin XII: Her Pay Cut <br>AsMayor<br><br><br>> g. crabtree
wrote:<br>>> I'm reminded of my conversation with Mr. "I'm not looking
for a Jesus" <br>>> Rumelhart on the topic of Barry's beautiful, round
headed, half <br>>> brother...<br>><br>> I'm sure the sound-bite
qualities of that phrase just make you giddy, but <br>> I really don't
give a damn. Are *you* looking for a Jesus for a <br>> Presidential
candidate? If so, good luck.<br>><br>> Paul<br>><br>>
P.S. ...and if you're so worried about his half brother, send him a
damn <br>> check already.<br>><br>><br>>
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