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I'm not convinced there's a great deal of evidentiary value in old, dead, beaten horses. <br><br>Sunil<br><br>> To: sunilramalingam@hotmail.com; vision2020@moscow.com<br>> From: thansen@moscow.com<br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Odd Lies Of Sarah Palin I: Firing Monegan<br>> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:12:33 +0000<br>> <br>> Sunil -<br>> <br>> I referenced the Shirley Ringo/National Anthem incident to reflect <br>> on "past crimes". I am sure that you, as an attorney, understand the <br>> evidentiary value of presenting a person's history of past crimes.<br>> <br>> Tom Hansen<br>> Moscow, Idaho<br>> <br>> <br>> > <br>> > Tom,<br>> > <br>> > I think it's fair to ask Roger to substantiate his claim re. Ayers. But<br>> si> nce he's apologized for the accusation about Shirley, I think maybe we<br>> co> uld leave that out from now on. Asides from inventing a time machine <br>> and<br>> c> hanging the past, I'm not sure he can do anything else about it now.<br>> > <br>> > Sunil<br>> > <br>> > > To: lfalen@turbonet.com; sslund_2007@verizon.net;<br>> vision2020@moscow.c> om<br>> > > From: thansen@moscow.com<br>> > > Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:34:19 +0000<br>> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Odd Lies Of Sarah Palin I: Firing Monegan<br>> > > <br>> > > I am afraid that I am going to have to call you on this one, Roger.<br>> > > <br>> > > Care to share with the Viz your indisputable proof that Barack Obama <br>> > > announced his candidacy for the Illinois state senate from Ayers' <br>> house?<br>> > > <br>> > > Or is this just another Shirley-Ringo-didn't-stand-for-the<br>> National-Anthe> m <br>> > > claim of yours?<br>> > > <br>> > > Tom Hansen<br>> > > Moscow, Idaho<br>> > > <br>> > > > Taking about lies. Obama said in his debate with McCain that he did<br>> not> <br>> > > launch his<br>> > > political career in Bill Ayees home. It is well documented that he <br>> > > announced his plans to<br>> > > run for the sate senate at a fundraiser in Bill Ayers home.<br>> > > > Roger<br>> > > > -----Original message-----<br>> > > > From: "Saundra Lund" sslund_2007@verizon.net<br>> > > > Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 11:05:08 -0700<br>> > > > To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > > > Subject: [Vision2020] The Odd Lies Of Sarah Palin I: Firing Monegan<br>> > > > <br>> > > > > The Atlantic<br>> > > > > The Daily Dish<br>> > > > > Andrew Sullivan<br>> > > > > 18 Oct 2008 08:07 am<br>> > > > > <br>> > > > > The Odd Lies Of Sarah Palin I: Firing Monegan<br>> > > > > <br>> > > > > This weekend, I'll be re-posting all the factual untruths that<br>> Sara> h <br>> > > Palin<br>> > > > > insists are still actually truths. I've updated each item to keep<br>> up> <br>> > > with<br>> > > > > the new information that has come out since the original posting.<br>> > > > > <br>> > > > > I'm doing this because Sarah Palin's contribution is to introduce a<br>> n> ew<br>> > > > > level of detachment from reality to our politics. After<br>> Bush-Cheney> , <br>> > > this<br>> > > > > would be hard for anyone. But youbetcha she can.<br>> > > > > <br>> > > > > This has been the pattern from the start of her career: a denial <br>> of <br>> > > reality<br>> > > > > combined with an almost unhinged and unlimited ambition. Since the <br>> > > press is<br>> > > > > barred from questioning her thoroughly, since we will never know<br>> ho> w <br>> > > she<br>> > > > > responds to the long list of untruths she has told - from the<br>> smalles> t<br>> > > > > biographical detail to the biggest policy - all I can do is remind <br>> my<br>> > > > > readers of the record one more time before November. There are<br>> ninete> en<br>> > > > > assertions of factual untruths that I've been able to document.<br>> > > > > <br>> > > > > We'll start at the beginning, and Troopergate.<br>> > > > > <br>> > > > > The key issue is whether she used her state office to pressure the <br>> > > public<br>> > > > > safety commissioner to fire her ex-brother-in-law. Here's what she <br>> > > stated on<br>> > > > > the record in mid-July if this year: <br>> > > > > <br>> > > > > Palin stated on July 17 that Monegan was not pressured to fire<br>> Wooten> , <br>> > > nor<br>> > > > > dismissed for not doing so:[114][117] "To allege that I, or any<br>> mem> ber <br>> > > of my<br>> > > > > family . . . directed disciplinary action be taken against any <br>> > > employee of<br>> > > > > the Department of Public Safety, is, quite simply,<br>> outrageous."> <br>> > > > > <br>> > > > > Here's Wikipedia's account of the findings of the Branchflower<br>> Report> , <br>> > > with<br>> > > > > links to the original sources:<br>> > > > > <br>> > > > > On October 10, 2008, the Alaska Legislative Council unanimously<br>> v> oted <br>> > > to<br>> > > > > release, without officially endorsing,[135] the Branchflower<br>> Repo> rt in <br>> > > which<br>> > > > > Stephen Branchflower found that firing Monegan "was a proper and<br>> lawf> ul<br>> > > > > exercise of her constitutional and statutory authority,"[136] and<br>> t> hat <br>> > > Palin<br>> > > > > abused her power as governor by violating the state's Executive<br>> Branc> h<br>> > > > > Ethics Act[137] when her office pressured Monegan to fire Wooten.<br>> The> <br>> > > report<br>> > > > > stated that "Governor Palin knowingly permitted a situation to<br>> contin> ue<br>> > > > > where impermissible pressure was placed on several subordinates in <br>> > > order to<br>> > > > > advance a personal agenda, to wit: to get Trooper Michael Wooten<br>> > > > > fired."[138] The report also said that Palin "permitted Todd Palin<br>> to> <br>> > > use<br>> > > > > the Governor's office [...] to continue to contact subordinate <br>> state<br>> > > > > employees in an effort to find some way to get Trooper Wooten<br>> > > > > fired."[138][139]<br>> > > > > <br>> > > > > The eventual report found that she was within her legal rights to<br>> fir> e<br>> > > > > Monegan, but that her unethical persecution of her ex<br>> brother-in-la> w <br>> > > was a<br>> > > > > contributing factor to the firing. The report found her guilty of <br>> > > abuse of<br>> > > > > power and violation of Alaska's Ethics Act.<br>> > > > > <br>> > > > > http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/10/the-<br>> odd-<br>> > > lies--7<br>> > > > > .html<br>> > > > > <br>> > > > > <br>> > > > ><br>> =======================> =========================> =======<br>> > > > > List services made available by First Step Internet, <br>> > > > > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <br>> > > > > http://www.fsr.net <br>> > > > > mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > > > ><br>> =======================> =========================> =======<br>> > > > <br>> > > ><br>> =======================> =========================> =======<br>> > > > List services made available by First Step Internet, <br>> > > > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <br>> > > > http://www.fsr.net <br>> > > > mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > > ><br>> =======================> =========================> =======<br>> > > > <br>> > > <br>> > > <br>> > > "Jesus was a community organizer and Poncius Pilate was a governor."<br>> > > <br>> > > - Marilyn Trail, sister of Representative Tom trail (September 8,<br>> 200> 8)<br>> > > <br>> > > ----<br>> > > <br>> > > "We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The<br>> colle> ge <br>> > > students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."<br>> > > <br>> > > - Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)<br>> > > <br>> > > <br>> > > ---------------------------------------------<br>> > > This message was sent by First Step Internet.<br>> > > http://www.fsr.com/<br>> > > <br>> > > <br>> > ><br>> ========================> =========================> ======<br>> > > List services made available by First Step Internet, <br>> > > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <br>> > > http://www.fsr.net <br>> > > mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > ><br>> ========================> =========================> ======<br>> > <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> "Jesus was a community organizer and Poncius Pilate was a governor."<br>> <br>> - Marilyn Trail, sister of Representative Tom trail (September 8, 2008)<br>> <br>> ----<br>> <br>> "We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The college <br>> students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."<br>> <br>> - Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)<br>> <br>> <br>> ---------------------------------------------<br>> This message was sent by First Step Internet.<br>> http://www.fsr.com/<br>> <br>> <br></body>
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