<div dir="ltr">NW --<br><br>Please explain to me why you think our current policy toward Iran has been such a stunning success.<br><br>-- ACS<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 7:58 AM, No Weatherman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:no.weatherman@gmail.com">no.weatherman@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Paul:<br>
<br>
Please tell us why you think chit chatting with Ahmadinejad could<br>
possibly accomplish anything and tell us why you think he's a<br>
trustworthy fellow.<br>
<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br>
<br>
<br>
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 6:46 AM, Paul Rumelhart <<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Correction. There's only one way to deal with them if that's the only<br>
> option you leave open for yourself. If you can save the lives of who knows<br>
> how many US troops and innocent Irani civilians through negotiations, why<br>
> not try? That's assuming our fears of their having nuclear weapons are<br>
> indeed well-founded, and their threats of attacking another sovereign nation<br>
> are real and imminent.<br>
><br>
> Paul<br>
><br>
> No Weatherman wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> It's not unreasonable to require a terrorist state that is armed to<br>
>> the teeth to take a sedative before discussions.<br>
>><br>
>> It is completely absurd to ask a global leader to abandon its foreign<br>
>> policy as well as its international friends before discussions begin.<br>
>><br>
>> Ahmadinejad is a lunatic who should not be allowed to host nukes. Iran<br>
>> would destroy Israel as fast as they'd hang a homosexual.<br>
>><br>
>> There's only one way to deal effectively with terrorist leaders. It's<br>
>> not pleasant and the world community will frown on it but in the end<br>
>> terrorists understand only one kind of language — physical violence.<br>
>><br>
>> The Neville Chamberlains and Barack Obamas of the world think they can<br>
>> reason with terrorists, but they cannot. Having tea with Adolf or<br>
>> talking shop with Ahmadinejad will only prolong the inevitable.<br>
>><br>
>> The minute someone threatens to take another person's life, whether<br>
>> individually or nationally, all negotiations should cease and<br>
>> reasonable people must begin contemplating the very thing that Neville<br>
>> and Barack think they can avoid.<br>
>><br>
>> Sooner or later someone is going to have to make the decision to take<br>
>> out Iran's nukes. It will probably be Israel, like they took out<br>
>> Iraq's in 81, and I hope they have the complete support of the US.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 6:10 AM, Paul Rumelhart <<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Iran is doing the exact same thing Bush is. They are attempting to get<br>
>>> the<br>
>>> other party to commit to exactly the outcome they want from the talks<br>
>>> before<br>
>>> they begin. It's the perfect way to look like you want to negotiate when<br>
>>> what you really want is your way or the highway.<br>
>>><br>
>>> The fact that we do the same thing embarrasses me. This is not "higher<br>
>>> standards", it's on the level of what third-graders would do.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Paul<br>
>>><br>
>>> No Weatherman wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Just when I thought we had the fixin's for an interesting subject to<br>
>>>> discuss, Iran had to go and set two preconditions before they'd meet<br>
>>>> with the US:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> <a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/terry-trippany/2008/10/13/iran-refuses-meet-us-without-preconditions" target="_blank">http://newsbusters.org/blogs/terry-trippany/2008/10/13/iran-refuses-meet-us-without-preconditions</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> IOW, the president of a terrorist state has higher standards for<br>
>>>> negotiation than Barack Obama.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On 10/12/08, Art Deco <<a href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Paul writes:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> "I'm happy that Obama has some experience with Islam and Muslims." In<br>
>>>>> addition, he argues that open discussion without conditions among those<br>
>>>>> that<br>
>>>>> disagree is generally desirable.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> I can't agree strongly enough with the second sentiment. While<br>
>>>>> discussion<br>
>>>>> may not always lead to conflict resolution, having no discussion never<br>
>>>>> does.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> With regard to his first point:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> I think it a very big mistake to think there is heterogeneity within<br>
>>>>> the<br>
>>>>> so-called Islamic community and within the so-called Christian<br>
>>>>> Community.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> There are two major Islamic sects between which there is very little<br>
>>>>> harmony, theological or otherwise. In fact, active news readers will<br>
>>>>> know<br>
>>>>> that the division between the two sects is so great that it frequently<br>
>>>>> provokes murderous acts and other atrocities.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> According to The Encyclopedia of American Religion there are at least<br>
>>>>> 280<br>
>>>>> identifiable Christian sects of some noteworthy size in the US each<br>
>>>>> with<br>
>>>>> significant but differing sub-sects. In addition, pick a major ethical<br>
>>>>> issue -- abortion, death penalty, gay marriage, gun control,<br>
>>>>> environmental<br>
>>>>> stewardship, etc -- and it is easy to find major Christian sects on the<br>
>>>>> opposite sides of the issue.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Nobody speaks for either the so-called Islamic community or so-called<br>
>>>>> Christian community, and in reality rather than artificial semantic<br>
>>>>> classification, there are no such communities. Things are far more<br>
>>>>> complex<br>
>>>>> ,and to some extent, much more fluid than that.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Discussion is very important. But it is important to know with whom<br>
>>>>> you<br>
>>>>> are<br>
>>>>> having a discussion, who they may or may not represent, and what power<br>
>>>>> or<br>
>>>>> influence they may yield over those they may claim to represent. This<br>
>>>>> is<br>
>>>>> especially true on the national and international level.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> W.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----<br>
>>>>> From: Paul Rumelhart<br>
>>>>> To: No Weatherman<br>
>>>>> Cc: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 4:03 PM<br>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Candidate issues — Foreign Policy<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> I was planning on starting other issues threads, anyway. I guess I'd<br>
>>>>> like to start with the implication that simply sitting down to talk<br>
>>>>> with<br>
>>>>> someone without preconditions is somehow the wrong thing to do. If we<br>
>>>>> don't start a dialogue, how are we supposed to get anywhere?<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Diplomacy used to be this country's strong suit, before our current<br>
>>>>> President trashed out international reputation. Sit down, discuss,<br>
>>>>> look<br>
>>>>> for points of potential compromise, stand firm on issues we have no<br>
>>>>> room<br>
>>>>> for compromise on. It's an art that our country seems to have lost.<br>
>>>>> We<br>
>>>>> have a lot more weapons in our arsenal than tanks and automatic rifles,<br>
>>>>> if we'd just use them.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Also, sitting down and discussing issues with bad people, even<br>
>>>>> terrorists, does not transfer those ideas automatically like some kind<br>
>>>>> of virus. Besides, today's terrorist is yesterday's CIA trainee. It's<br>
>>>>> a crazy world we live in, and uncompromising positions based on fear<br>
>>>>> doesn't serve us too well in it.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> I'm happy that Obama has some experience with Islam and Muslims. He<br>
>>>>> might be able to get past this country's prejudices and find a solution<br>
>>>>> to Iraq that is workable for everyone. That is, if he doesn't get shot<br>
>>>>> because some idiot thinks he's an "Ayrab".<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Paul<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> No Weatherman wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Paul:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Don't be offended but I'd rather not participate in the economic part<br>
>>>>>> of the conversation because I don't believe any candidate can "fix"<br>
>>>>>> the economy and in the end both men offer loser plans.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> When you're ready, I'd like to address foreign policy and Barack<br>
>>>>>> Obama's willingness to sit down with rogue world leaders, without<br>
>>>>>> precoditions, like Iran's president who believes Israel should be<br>
>>>>>> "wiped off the map."<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> The irony with this position is that while some of Obama's LOUD and<br>
>>>>>> dishonest supporters in this forum refuse to engage me at all, their<br>
>>>>>> homeboy Barack Obama wants to sit down with leaders of<br>
>>>>>> terrorist-sponsoring countries without any preconditions that would<br>
>>>>>> hold those countries responsible.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> I don't know the reason for Obama's naive approach to foreign policy<br>
>>>>>> but the best explanation for this policy is that Obama has spent a the<br>
>>>>>> vast majority of his adult life palling around with terrorists, both<br>
>>>>>> international and domestic, and so his foreign policy would be no<br>
>>>>>> different.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 8:27 AM, Paul Rumelhart <<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Right now, because the money has to come from somewhere and I'd<br>
>>>>>>> rather<br>
>>>>>>> it<br>
>>>>>>> not be on the backs of the middle class, I'd say I'm for shifting<br>
>>>>>>> some<br>
>>>>>>> of<br>
>>>>>>> the tax burden to the corporations instead. I wouldn't call it<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> "penalizing"<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> them, but the money has to come from somewhere.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Getting out of Iraq would also help the economy.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Paul<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> No Weatherman wrote:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> Apologies. My bad.<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> So where are you on the issue?<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> Penalize corporations or relieve their burden?<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Paul Rumelhart<br>
>>>>>>>> <<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>><br>
>>>>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry, but the hell they do. I'm not saying that no<br>
>>>>>>>>> corporations<br>
>>>>>>>>> should<br>
>>>>>>>>> make a profit. That would be silly. I'm saying that no _specific_<br>
>>>>>>>>> corporation has a right to a profit. They only have a right to be<br>
>>>>>>>>> able<br>
>>>>>>>>> to<br>
>>>>>>>>> compete on a level playing field.<br>
>>>>>>>>> If Corporation X goes broke because Uncle Sam raised their taxes,<br>
>>>>>>>>> then<br>
>>>>>>>>> Corporation Y (who has found a way to work a little leaner) will<br>
>>>>>>>>> step<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> in<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> and<br>
>>>>>>>>> take over their customers. Likewise, if Corporation X pulls up<br>
>>>>>>>>> it's<br>
>>>>>>>>> stakes<br>
>>>>>>>>> in the US and moves it's headquarters to China, then Corporation Y<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> might<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> just step up to the plate with a "made in America" ad campaign.<br>
>>>>>>>>> It's<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> not<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> like we're going to run every corporation into the ground because<br>
>>>>>>>>> we're<br>
>>>>>>>>> raising taxes on them. Like you said, they'll just pass it on to<br>
>>>>>>>>> the<br>
>>>>>>>>> customer anyway. But now said customer has a choice - should they<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> spend<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> their extra paycheck money on shoes for the kids, or on a widget<br>
>>>>>>>>> from<br>
>>>>>>>>> Company X?<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> Paul<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> No Weatherman wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> Comrade Paul:<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> Corporations absolutely have a right to make a profit and it's<br>
>>>>>>>>>> possible to tax them right out of existence or out of the country.<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> And if they go broke or abandon the US, how where will the<br>
>>>>>>>>>> government<br>
>>>>>>>>>> get its tax revenues?<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> Why don't we worry about where people are going to find their next<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> meal<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> before we worry about how corporations are supposed to make their<br>
>>>>>>>>>> profits?<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Paul Rumelhart<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> <<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you raise the gas prices, the transportation costs are sent on<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> to<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> the<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> consumer. If you raise the price of some component they need,<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> the<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> costs<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> are<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> sent on to the consumer. If you raise the minimum wage, the<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> costs<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> are<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> sent<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> on to the consumer. What Obama wants to do is relieve some of<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> the<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> burden<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> on<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> the "consumer", by lowering their personal tax burden. With all<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> these<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> costs<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> being passed on to them, lowering their tax burden might actually<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> convince<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> them that they can still buy their product.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Corporations don't have a right to make a profit. If economic<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> times<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> are<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> tough, we should be focusing on the individual, not on how well<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Company<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> X<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> can sell widgets to people that probably don't even need them.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you have a bunch of yahoos making more money than they know<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> what<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> to<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> do<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> with, why overly tax the person that's living on ramen noodles<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> and<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Koolaid?Why don't we worry about where people are going to find<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> their<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> next meal<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> before we worry about how corporations are supposed to make their<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> profits?<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Just my two cents.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Paul<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> No Weatherman wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul:<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you raise taxes on corporations so that you can lower taxes<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> for<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> one<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> sector of the population, how do you think those corporations<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> will<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> recover the money they lost by the tax increase?<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> THEY WILL RAISE PRICES ON THEIR PRODUCT TO RECOUP THEIR LOSSES.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> THEREFORE, ANY MONEY GAINED BY TAX RELIEF WILL BE LOST AT THE<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> CHECKOUT<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> STAND.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Punitive tax hikes on corporations do not take place in a black<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> hole<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> and neither does redistribution of wealth. These companies are<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> in<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> business to make money, not pay taxes, and they will make their<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> profit, taxes or not.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 9:00 AM, Paul Rumelhart<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> <<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is an attempt to get a discussion started on the issues<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> instead<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all the threads on who associates with who and who is<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> encouraging<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> the<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> most emotional responses.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here are links to the sections on the economy from the<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Democratic<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> and<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Republican candidates for office:<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> John McCain:<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> <a href="http://www.johnmccain.com/Issues/jobsforamerica/" target="_blank">http://www.johnmccain.com/Issues/jobsforamerica/</a><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Barack Obama:<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> <a href="http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/" target="_blank">http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/</a><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The biggest difference between the two, in my opinion, from my<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reading<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is that John McCain is focusing on helping corporations through<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tax<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaks to help the economy whereas Barack Obama is focusing on<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tax<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaks for the middle class instead. Both plans have a lot of<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> provisions I like - both are looking at different ways that the<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> work/family balance can be strengthened, for example.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's a lot of information there to go through. Please let<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> us<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> know<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> your thoughts, so we can all become more educated on the<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> candidates<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> positions. Also, if others want to tackle third-party<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> positions<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> topics, please do. I'm not educated enough about them this<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> time<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> around<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to even know who they all are.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
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>>>>> <a href="http://www.fsr.net" target="_blank">http://www.fsr.net</a><br>
>>>>> mailto:<a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">Vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>
>>>>> =======================================================<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> =======================================================<br>
>>>> List services made available by First Step Internet, serving the<br>
>>>> communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br>
>>>> <a href="http://www.fsr.net" target="_blank">http://www.fsr.net</a><br>
>>>> mailto:<a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">Vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>
>>>> =======================================================<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>><br>
>> =======================================================<br>
>> List services made available by First Step Internet, serving the<br>
>> communities of the Palouse since 1994. <a href="http://www.fsr.net" target="_blank">http://www.fsr.net</a><br>
>> mailto:<a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">Vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>
>> =======================================================<br>
>><br>
>><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
<br>
=======================================================<br>
List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>
serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br>
<a href="http://www.fsr.net" target="_blank">http://www.fsr.net</a><br>
mailto:<a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">Vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>
=======================================================<br>
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