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<body class='hmmessage'>"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — <FONT face="" color=#000000>That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government</FONT><STRONG>,</STRONG> laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.'<BR>
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<BR><PRE><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT face="" color=#000000>"It doesn't require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brushfires in people's minds."</FONT></SPAN></PRE><PRE><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT face="" color=#000000>- Samuel Johnson [1709-84]</FONT></SPAN></PRE><PRE><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT face="" color=#000000><?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN><BR><BR><BR><BR> </PRE><PRE><HR id=EC_stopSpelling></PRE><PRE>From: editor@lataheagle.com<BR>To: idahotom@hotmail.com; ophite@gmail.com; no.weatherman@gmail.com<BR>CC: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] An Obama Dilemma<BR>Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 11:10:01 -0700<BR><BR></PRE>
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<DIV>Secession<FONT face="Times New Roman"> is the highest form of dissent.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title="mailto:idahotom@hotmail.com CTRL + Click to follow link" href="mailto:idahotom@hotmail.com">Tom Hansen</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 07, 2008 10:55 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=ophite@gmail.com href="mailto:ophite@gmail.com">Andreas Schou</A> ; <A title=no.weatherman@gmail.com href="mailto:no.weatherman@gmail.com">No Weatherman</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] An Obama Dilemma</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism."<BR> <BR>- Thomas Jefferson<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR>Seeya round town, Moscow.<BR> <BR>Tom Hansen<BR>Moscow, Idaho<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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<BR>> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 10:25:28 -0700<BR>> From: <A href="mailto:ophite@gmail.com">ophite@gmail.com</A><BR>> To: <A href="mailto:no.weatherman@gmail.com">no.weatherman@gmail.com</A><BR>> CC: <A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] An Obama Dilemma<BR>> <BR>> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 7:34 AM, No Weatherman <<A href="mailto:no.weatherman@gmail.com">no.weatherman@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>> > ACS,<BR>> ><BR>> > You're the one who cannot (or will not) distinguish between domestic<BR>> > terrorism and vandalism:<BR>> <BR>> This is ironic, coming from someone who cannot (or will not)<BR>> distinguish between treason and patriotism.<BR>> <BR>> > http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2008-September/056263.html<BR>> <BR>> "Terrorist" describes their goals: they were attempting to change<BR>> policies through use of public fear. "Vandalism" describes their<BR>> methods: they did property damage, and didn't kill anyone other than<BR>> -- incompetently -- themselves. Ex post facto, they claimed that they<BR>> were going to step up and start killing people, but they didn't<BR>> actually do that; that may be conspiracy commit murder. Incidentally,<BR>> that's also what G. Gordon Liddy did with regard to Jack Anderson.<BR>> <BR>> Incidentally, I don't see that you've made any further defense of your<BR>> assertion that Liddy was a great patriot.<BR>> <BR>> > Therefore, it's slightly ironic that you would try to impeach law<BR>> > professor Steve Diamond based upon your understanding of grantee<BR>> > agencies.<BR>> <BR>> As a former nonprofit executive, I'm quite aware of what the fiduciary<BR>> duties of such an executive are. They do not involve the selection of<BR>> a nonprofit board: the board must be selected independently of the<BR>> executive. Incidentally, the CAC did this the opposite way most<BR>> nonprofits do it: usually, the president forms a board, then hires an<BR>> executive. I suspect it was done this way because Ayers, as a<BR>> potential grantee, *could not* be president of the board.<BR>> <BR>> > Interestingly, I noticed that you ignored this salient point from Diamond:<BR>> ><BR>> > "In social science and law, written contemporaneous records are<BR>> > considered a more credible source than ex post recollections by only a<BR>> > small number of the individuals involved. I thought the same standards<BR>> > applied in journalism as well."<BR>> <BR>> Incidentally, Diamond's "evidence" takes this form: "Bill Ayers had<BR>> an executive role at CAC; that executive role conferred a fiduciary<BR>> duty on him; that fiduciary duty must have given him a primary role in<BR>> selecting the board of directors; Ayers must have selected Obama,<BR>> QED."<BR>> <BR>> This is convincing to anyone without a whit of knowledge regarding<BR>> nonprofit boards. The board of directors cannot be selected by someone<BR>> with a financial stake in the nonprofit; doing so creates an inherent<BR>> conflict of interest. The operative section of the tax code is here:<BR>> <BR>> "A section 501(c)(3) organization must not be organized or operated<BR>> for the benefit of private interests, such as the creator or the<BR>> creator's family, shareholders of the organization, other designated<BR>> individuals, or persons controlled directly or indirectly by such<BR>> private interests. No part of the net earnings of a section 501(c)(3)<BR>> organization may inure to the benefit of any private shareholder or<BR>> individual. A private shareholder or individual is a person having a<BR>> personal and private interest in the activities of the organization."<BR>> <BR>> -- ACS<BR>> <BR>> =======================================================<BR>> List services made available by First Step Internet, <BR>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <BR>> http://www.fsr.net <BR>> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> =======================================================<BR><BR>
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