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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>So you're saying that the redundancy of the bill
was what The Anointed One found so distressing? How do you square that with Mr.
Giers statement that "Obama and his Democratic colleagues objected to the bill
(giving any fetus born alive the status of a person) because they thought it was
unconstitutional and (most importantly) that it undermined Roe v. Wade."
<BR>There is a difference between outright murder and neglecting "the
by-product of a medical procedure" until it quits squirming and
inevitably breathing. This, among other things, was what the bill
addressed.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>g</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From: "Andreas Schou" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:ophite@gmail.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>ophite@gmail.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To: "g. crabtree" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>jampot@roadrunner.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Cc: <</FONT><A
href="mailto:nickgier@roadrunner.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>nickgier@roadrunner.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>;
<</FONT><A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>; "Tom
Hansen" <</FONT><A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>thansen@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 12:33
PM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Obama Does Not Support
Infanticide</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2>> Gary --<BR>> <BR>> Would the fact that the Illinois Attorney
General had released a<BR>> determination that what was prevented in the bill
was *already* a<BR>> crime change your mind? Murdering a newborn infant is --
no great<BR>> surprise -- murder. Consider also that reports of the murder
of<BR>> newborn children at hospitals were based on wildly perjurious<BR>>
testimony.<BR>> <BR>> -- ACS<BR>> <BR>> On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at
12:28 PM, g. crabtree <</FONT><A href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"><FONT
face=Arial size=2>jampot@roadrunner.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>
wrote:<BR>>> Ask Mr. Gier. I was quoting the exact wording contained in
his<BR>>> rationalization for wonder boys position. I am such a
radical extremist<BR>>> that I would go so far as to grant full protection
of the constitution to<BR>>> all human beings pre birth or post. Most
especially the tenth amendment.<BR>>> Bye, bye
Roe.<BR>>><BR>>> g<BR>>> ----- Original Message
-----<BR>>> From: "Tom Hansen" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>thansen@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>><BR>>> To:
<</FONT><A href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>jampot@roadrunner.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>;
<</FONT><A href="mailto:nickgier@roadrunner.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>nickgier@roadrunner.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>>;<BR>>> <</FONT><A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT
face=Arial size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>><BR>>> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 12:06 PM<BR>>>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Obama Does Not Support
Infanticide<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>> Crabtree
stated:<BR>>>><BR>>>> "Gier states 'Obama and his Democratic
colleagues objected to the bill<BR>>>> (giving any fetus born alive the
status of a person) because they thought<BR>>>> it was unconstitutional
and that it undermined Roe v. Wade.' I find it<BR>>>> amazing that
anyone could find this position reasonable or even
rational."<BR>>>><BR>>>> Crabtree: What do you mean by
"any fetus born alive"? My junior high<BR>>>> biology class
taught me that once a child is born, it is no longer a<BR>>>>
fetus. In that manner, I do believe that any child borm alive is IN
FACT<BR>>>> a person.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Please
clarify.<BR>>>><BR>>>>
Hansen<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>
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