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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>No, when he writes his own opinion I question him. Insult
doesn't come into it till I have to endure His condescending non-replies (Is it
a little clearer for you now, bunkie? etc.) at which point I may become less
reserved in my discourse. I know that you are used to being able to throw out
pretty much anything you like and have it be accepted as gospel by your own
personal cheering squad but why don't you back up your claim of
endless insult by posting a link to an example. I'm guessing that like most
instances where you are challenged in this way the proof will be a long
time coming. You are correct that my "steel trap" mind isn't likely to flex for
anything that Hansen posts but at least I start with it open. Tom's trap seems
to only flex for the utterances of Bill Mahr.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>On the Sarah Palin "reality" I thought that she did rather
well considering that it was her first big nationally televised interview and
that her interviewer was definitely in advanced adversarial mode. Her answers
were much more palatable to me than anything I've heard come out of Barry's,
butter don't melt in here, pie-hole. His Dr. Doolittle approach to foreign
policy (We should all talk with the terrorists, learn their languages,
maybe take al-qaeda out for tea) is simplistic and naive. His stance on the
economy is so confused that even he can't remain consistent when discussing it.
All in all a pretty fair showing for our girl from the frozen north. I'm rather
proud of her for holding her own. Considered next to Joe Biden and his gaff
riddled performances this week ("roll on over here, Chuck and stand tall for the
crowd" and " the Hilldabeast would be twice the candidate I am") she was
positively stellar.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>And all that with a completely straight face but tongue
slightly in cheek,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>g</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=kjajmix1@msn.com href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com">keely emerinemix</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=jampot@roadrunner.com
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">g. crabtree</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> ; <A
title=thansen@moscow.com href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">Tom Hansen</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 12, 2008 8:47
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Vision2020] Palin Falters
on Policy in First TV Interview</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>When Tom writes his own opinion, Gary, you insult him.
When he offers a news story that confirms his opinion, you insult him.
It occurs to me that your steel-trap mind is not likely to flex for anything
from Tom.<BR> <BR>The reality is, anyone other than Todd Palin and John
McCain would have seen the interview and thought how remarkably unprepared,
inexperienced, and unknowledgeable this woman is about foreign policy.
She's not distinguished herself on the economy, either. Feel free to
explain how her performance in the interview recommends her as McCain's
successor in the event of his death.<BR> <BR>Extra points if you can do
it with a straight
face.<BR><BR>Keely<BR>http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/<BR><BR><BR>>
From: jampot@roadrunner.com<BR>> To: vision2020@moscow.com;
thansen@moscow.com<BR>> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:07:04 -0700<BR>>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Palin Falters on Policy in First TV
Interview<BR>> <BR>> Another opinion piece presented as news. Boring,
Tommy but hardly <BR>> unexpected. Cut and paste is all well and good but,
perhaps you could try a <BR>> change up and offer something in your own
words. Something other than <BR>> insulting invective and "nuff said" that
is. Most of us already know how to <BR>> read the newspaper.<BR>>
<BR>> g<BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "Tom Hansen"
<thansen@moscow.com><BR>> To: <vision2020@moscow.com><BR>>
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 6:46 AM<BR>> Subject: [Vision2020] Palin
Falters on Policy in First TV Interview<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> >" ...
What President Bush has attempted to do is rid this world of Islamic<BR>>
> extremism, terrorists who are hell-bent on destroying our
nation."<BR>> ><BR>> > Gov. Sarah Palin, GOP Candidate for vice
president<BR>> ><BR>> >
----------------------------------------------------<BR>> ><BR>>
>>From today's (September 12, 2008) Spokesman Review -<BR>>
><BR>> > ----------------<BR>> ><BR>> > Palin falters on
policy in first TV interview<BR>> ><BR>> > FORT WAINWRIGHT, Alaska
- John McCain running mate Sarah Palin sought<BR>> > Thursday to defend
her qualifications but struggled with foreign policy,<BR>> > unable to
describe President Bush's doctrine of pre-emptive strikes<BR>> > against
threatening nations and acknowledging she's never met a foreign<BR>> >
head of state.<BR>> ><BR>> > The Republican vice presidential
nominee told Charles Gibson, of ABC News,<BR>> > in her first televised
interview since being named to the GOP ticket<BR>> > that "I'm ready" to
be president if called upon. She sidestepped on<BR>> > whether she had
the national security credentials needed to be commander<BR>> > in
chief.<BR>> ><BR>> > Palin, 44, has been Alaska's governor for
less than two years and before<BR>> > that was a small-town mayor.
McCain has defended her qualifications,<BR>> > citing her command of the
Alaska National Guard and Alaska's proximity to<BR>> > Russia.<BR>>
><BR>> > Asked whether those were sufficient credentials, Palin said:
"It is about<BR>> > reform of government, and it's about putting
government back on the side<BR>> > of the people, and that has much to
do with foreign policy and national<BR>> > security issues." She said
she brings expertise in making the country<BR>> > energy independent as
a former chairwoman of the Alaska Oil and Gas<BR>> > Conservation
Commission. "I want you to not lose sight of the fact that<BR>> > energy
is a foundation of national security," she said.<BR>> ><BR>> >
Palin said other than a trip to visit soldiers in Kuwait and Germany
last<BR>> > year - "a trip of a lifetime" that "changed my life" - her
only other<BR>> > foreign travel was to Mexico and Canada. She also said
she had never met a<BR>> > head of state and added: "If you go back in
history and if you ask that<BR>> > question of many vice presidents,
they may have the same answer that I<BR>> > just gave you."<BR>>
><BR>> > Pressed about what insights into recent Russian actions she
gained by<BR>> > living in Alaska, Palin answered: "They're our
next-door neighbors, and<BR>> > you can actually see Russia from land
here in Alaska, from an island in<BR>> > Alaska."<BR>> ><BR>>
> Foreign policy questions dominated the first of three interviews Palin
was<BR>> > giving Gibson over two days.<BR>> ><BR>> > In the
interview Thursday, Palin:<BR>> ><BR>> > .Appeared unsure of the
Bush doctrine - essentially that the United States<BR>> > must help
spread democracy to stop terrorism and that the nation will act<BR>> >
pre-emptively to stop potential foes.<BR>> ><BR>> > Asked whether
she agreed with that, Palin said: "In what respect,<BR>> > Charlie?"
Gibson pressed her for an interpretation of it. She said: "His<BR>> >
world view." That prompted Gibson to say "no, the Bush doctrine,<BR>> >
enunciated September 2002, before the Iraq war" and described it to<BR>>
> her. "I believe that what President Bush has attempted to do is rid
this<BR>> > world of Islamic extremism, terrorists who are hell-bent on
destroying our<BR>> > nation," Palin said, adding "there have been
mistakes made."<BR>> ><BR>> > Pressed on whether the United States
could attack terrorist hideouts in<BR>> > Pakistan without the country's
permission, she said: "If there is<BR>> > legitimate and enough
intelligence that tells us that a strike is imminent<BR>> > against
American people, we have every right to defend our country. In<BR>> >
fact, the president has the obligation, the duty to defend."<BR>>
><BR>> > .Said nuclear weapons in Iran's hands are dangerous, and
said "we've got<BR>> > to put the pressure on Iran." Asked three times
what her position would be<BR>> > if Israel felt threatened enough to
attack Iranian nuclear facilities,<BR>> > Palin repeatedly said the
United States shouldn't "second-guess" Israel's<BR>> > steps to secure
itself.<BR>> ><BR>> > .Called for Georgia and the Ukraine to be
included in NATO, a treaty that<BR>> > requires the U.S. to defend them
militarily. She also said Russia's attack<BR>> > into Georgia last month
was "unprovoked." Asked to clarify that she'd<BR>> > support going to
war over Georgia, she said: "Perhaps so."<BR>> ><BR>> > "I mean,
that is the agreement when you are a NATO ally, is if another<BR>> >
country is attacked, you're going to be expected to be called upon and<BR>>
> help," she said.<BR>> ><BR>> > .Said she "didn't hesitate"
when McCain asked her to be his running<BR>> > mate. "I answered him
'yes' because I have the confidence in that<BR>> > readiness and knowing
that you can't blink, you have to be wired in a way<BR>> > of being so
committed to the mission, the mission that we're on, reform of<BR>> >
this country and victory in the war, you can't blink. So I didn't
blink<BR>> > then ,even when asked to run as his running mate."<BR>>
><BR>> > Later Thursday, after her return to Alaska, Palin indirectly
linked the<BR>> > war in Iraq with the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks,
telling an Iraq-bound<BR>> > brigade of soldiers that included her son
that they would "defend the<BR>> > innocent from the enemies who planned
and carried out and rejoiced in the<BR>> > death of thousands of
Americans."<BR>> ><BR>> > "America can never go back to that false
sense of security that came<BR>> > before Sept. 11, 2001," Palin
said.<BR>> ><BR>> >
----------------------------------------------------<BR>> ><BR>> >
"Jesus was a community organizer and Poncius Pilate was a governor."<BR>>
><BR>> > - Marilyn Trail, sister of Representative Tom trail
(September 8, 2008)<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >
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