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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>For the same reason I do almost anything on this forum,
Sunil</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>g</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=sunilramalingam@hotmail.com
href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">Sunil Ramalingam</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September 11, 2008 6:35
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] SarahPalin's
Church Speech: US Troops Sent ToDo God'sWill</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Why do you keep calling him Barry, Gary?<BR><BR>Sunil<BR><BR>
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From: <A href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">jampot@roadrunner.com</A><BR>To:
<A href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com">starbliss@gmail.com</A>; <A
href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com">lfalen@turbonet.com</A><BR>Date: Thu, 11 Sep
2008 18:26:13 -0700<BR>CC: <A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR>Subject: Re:
[Vision2020] SarahPalin's Church Speech: US Troops Sent To Do
God'sWill<BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Having listened to Mrs. Palin's speech and having
read the transcript, it's clear that you are missing the point she was trying
to make entirely. In no way did she say that "our leaders were sending
our troops to do God's will." What she actually said was:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"Pray for our military men and women who are
striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our
national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from
God, That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is
a plan and that that plan is God's plan."</FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT>
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<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>What she was asking for was for
her audience to pray for our troops, our country, and that our leaders were
making the right decisions by sending our troops (U.S. soldiers) into harms
way. (That there IS A PLAN and that plan is God's plan) In other words on a
task that is from God as opposed to from fallen and
fallible man.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>That this incredible amount of time
and effort is being expended throwing everything including the kitchen sink at
Governor Palin in a desperate effort to find some small thing with which to
damage her doesn't speak very highly of Barry's campaign. If she were truly
the insignificant and corrupt little mayor from Podunk that everyone on the
left was making her out to be this amount of noise would be quite unnecessary.
That the libs can speak of nothing else speaks volumes.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>g</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=starbliss@gmail.com href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com">Ted
Moffett</A> </DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>To:</B>
<A title=lfalen@turbonet.com href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com">lfalen</A>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Cc:</B>
<A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020</A> </DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Sent:</B>
Thursday, September 11, 2008 1:14 PM</DIV>
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[Vision2020] SarahPalin's Church Speech: US Troops Sent To Do
God'sWill</DIV>
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<DIV>Roger et. al.</DIV>
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<DIV>For those who have missed it, here again is a link to a YouTube video
of Sarah Palin's Wasilla, Alaska church speech, where she discusses our
leaders sending our troops to do "God's will:"</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><A
href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG1vPYbRB7k&feature=related"
target=_blank>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG1vPYbRB7k&feature=related</A></DIV>
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<DIV>Roger, thanks for your response.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>We sometimes don't agree. But you have never resorted to
personal insults to undermine my posts.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Republican Mitt Romney was governor of one of the most "liberal" and
Democratic states, Massachusetts, with a huge budget, which he was
instrumental in managing wisely. He is a smart
businessperson. He is far more qualified than Sarah Palin as McCain's
VP choice, but I wonder if he was even seriously considered. I would
be much happier with him as a Republican presidential candidate, for that
matter, than McCain. But I think his Mormon background was a major
negative as a candidate, which it should not have been. Yet witness
Sarah Palin's disturbing statements about US troops being sent to do "God's
will," which do not appear to be seriously negatively impacting her
popularity. As if "God" is in the business of waging war? This
is scary thinking...</DIV>
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<DIV>Ted Moffett<BR><BR><SPAN class=EC_gmail_quote>On 9/8/08, <B
class=EC_gmail_sendername>lfalen</B> <<A
href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com">lfalen@turbonet.com</A>>
wrote:</SPAN></DIV>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">Ted<BR>You
have some good points here. You are probably right that someone who does
not belong to a mainstream religion would not be elected. As for me I
don't care what there religion is or if they have one. It is they basic
philosophy and and values that I am interested
in.<BR>Roger<BR>-----Original message-----<BR>From: "Ted Moffett" <A
href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com">starbliss@gmail.com</A><BR>Date: Sun, 07
Sep 2008 02:45:24 -0700<BR>To: vision2020 <A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR>Subject:
[Vision2020] Separation Of Church And State Marginalized: SarahPalin's
Church Speech<BR><BR>> Respect for the separation of church and state
is not an<BR>> essential criteria that McCain considered when choosing
a vice presidential<BR>> candidate, given Sarah Palin's explicit
linking of her religion and the<BR>> goals of government. In
fact, given the realities of US politics at this<BR>> time in history,
any candidate for president or vice president must<BR>> announce, and
back up by action, they are a devout Christian, or they will<BR>> have
a limited chance of election. Witness Obama's repeated
insistence he<BR>> is not Muslim, his emphasis on his Christian faith,
and the attacks, by<BR>> those wishing to undermine his campaign, that
he has a Muslim background.<BR>><BR>> Does anyone realistically
think a Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, Wiccan, Atheist<BR>> or Agnostic,
would have a chance of election as president? Mitt Romney
is<BR>> far more qualified than McCain as CEO of the US, yet who doubts
his Mormon<BR>> heritage, viewed by many Christians as questionably
"Christian," was a<BR>> negative? Or that any presidential
candidate would choose someone<BR>> representing those other spiritual
orientations listed, as a VP candidate?<BR>> Certainly Obama's choice
of devout Catholic Joe Biden for VP supports this<BR>> theory, though I
trust Biden supports the separation of church and state<BR>> more than
it appears Palin does.<BR>><BR>> Religion dominates the US political
landscape. It is more prejudicial for a<BR>> candidate for
the presidency or VP to be other than Christian as a religious<BR>>
orientation, than it is for the candidate to be of a "racial" minority,
or<BR>> of the female gender. * *<BR>> **<BR>> *I suppose this is
some sort of progress!*<BR>><BR>> Religion is a dominate form of
prejudice in politics. No, I am not offering<BR>> exhaustive
research at this time to back up this claim... I have offered<BR>>
exhaustive research to this list on other issues, and it is ignored
and<BR>> mocked by those with an irrational
bias. Nonetheless, this claim appears to<BR>> have
merit. Why else does Karl Rove tailor Republican strategy aimed
at<BR>> earning the Christian evangelical vote, certainly a partial
reason to choose<BR>> Palin?<BR>><BR>></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<DIV>Vision2020 Post: Ted Moffett<BR> </DIV><BR>
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