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Excellent points, Shawn. It's been a real hoot to hear the Republicans try to defend Palin as the most experienced of any particular VP possibility, more so than Obama and Biden, just as they did a few years ago with "the most experienced jurist in the land, Clarence Thomas," and Dan Quayle, for whom "handsome" was supposed to cover a multitude of political and intellectual failings.<br><br>As Doug Wilson says, though, she is pretty ("a pippin"), and, quoting him further, she has the "hot school marm"-loving vote locked up.<br><br>Keely<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><hr>From: shawnc@outtrack.com<br>To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:56:51 -0700<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Gov. Palin Foreign Policy Experience<br><br>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">For every label that says Palin has "executive
experience" and Obama does not, the opposite can be said of "national
experience". Which does a president need more of? But either of
these are just labels or titles - you must look more deeply because "experience"
is a very ambiguous term.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">For Obama's "present" votes in Illinois, voting
"present" in Illinois isn't the same a voting present in other states - if that
state even allows for such a vote. In Illinois, voting "present" is the
counted the same as voting "no".</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Palin: 20 months as governor of the 3rd least
populous state in the US, before that a part time mayor and city councilwoman
for a town of less than 9,000; Obama: Senator for the 5th most populous state in
the US for a little less than 4 years where he has written 890 bills and
cosponsored 1096, before that state legislator for again the 5th most populous
state on the country for 7 years where he sponsored over 820 bills, and taught
constitutional law for 12 years at the University of Chicago Law School.
Before her being named to McCain's ticket, the talk of her was moving UP to
Senator or Alaska's lone House Representative. </font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">She has a BA in Sports Journalism which would
disqualify her for being considered for most school principal or other executive
positions. Obama has BA in International Relations from Columbia University. He
later graduated with a Juris Doctor (J.D.) magna cum laude from Harvard in 1991.
That’s top of his class at arguably the best school in the country/world. While
at Harvard he was also president of the Harvard Law Review.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">My questions to McCain-</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"> How did you determine that she was the best
choice when only meeting with her once and talking to her once or
twice?</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"> If you wanted a female running-mate, why did
you not choose the more experienced Kay Bailey Hutchison?</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial"> If Obama had chosen someone like Palin, what
would you be saying about her?</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Shawn</font></div>
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<div style=""><b>From:</b> <a title="mailto:jeffh@moscow.com
CTRL + Click to follow link" href="mailto:jeffh@moscow.com">Jeff Harkins</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, August 31, 2008 8:15 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
CTRL + Click to follow link" href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</a>
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<div><b>Cc:</b> <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Gov. Palin Foreign Policy
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<div><br></div>Neither does the President. Remember Donovan, the President
proposes, the Congress disposes.<br><br>I have been unable to document Obama's
genius. Perhaps you could lead me to his peer-reviewed writings on the
Constitution and international law. <br><br>As to Palin, she does seem to
have an impressive record in dealing with corruption in her state. That
suggests to me an ability to get things done. Taking on a status quo and
prevailing - that is significant.<br><br>I agree with you that leadership is
important, but leadership has many dimensions. IMHO, Obama has yet to
reveal himself. If press reports are accurate, Obama voted present some
163 times as a state legislator. His record as a Senator is equally
dismal. Again, if press reports are accurate, he has spent the majority of his
time as a senator running to be a presidential candidate - most of his efforts
prior to the primary season were all on our nickel. Many of his past
affiliations are disturbing - Ayers, Wright, etc. And so on and so on.<br><br>It
is shaping up to be an interesting race - and McCain/Palin seem to be holding
their own. And from the vitriolic and unfounded assertions being tossed around
right here in our own river city, I can safely predict that by the time the
rhetoric ends and the votes begin, there will be virtually no stone
unturned. We will all have a pretty good idea about all four candidates.
Exciting huh!<br><br>See ya on the stump DJ.<br><br>At 10:44 PM 8/30/2008, you
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="cite" cite="">Palin has zero foreign policy
experience. She has no authority as a governor to conduct international
treaties or regulate international commerce. <br> <br>Obama is not much
more experienced than Palin. But Obama is a genius, has a JD degree from
Harvard, and degree from Columbia. He is an expert on the constitution,
international law, and has been able to do something that no other person has,
politically defeat the Clintons in an election. Other countries love Obama,
they have never even heard of Palin. Obama commands crowds ten times the size
of the town Palin governed. How long someone has sat in a chair or held a
position is not the skill set needed to be President. Leadership is the most
important aspect of a President, and Obama has that in spades.
<br> <br>Best Regards,<br> <br>Donovan<br><br>--- On <b>Sat,
8/30/08, Jeff Harkins <i><jeffh@moscow.com></i></b> wrote:<br>
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<dd>From: Jeff Harkins <jeffh@moscow.com><br>
</dd><dd>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Gov. Palin Foreign Policy Experience<br>
</dd><dd>To: "Chasuk" <chasuk@gmail.com><br>
</dd><dd>Cc: vision2020@moscow.com<br>
</dd><dd>Date: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 10:29 PM<br><br><br>
</dd><dd><pre>Thanks! You have such a way with words and such respect<br>for your <br><br><dd>neighbors. Perhaps you have spent entirely too much time in<br>Warcraft.<br><br><br></dd><dd>My mistake on your European heritage. From a correspondence a<br>year <br><br></dd><dd>or so ago, I had been led to believe that you transmigrated from <br><br></dd><dd>Europe to US. You have made several references to how much you <br><br></dd><dd>prefer Europe to the US. It does make me wonder, if you love<br>the UK <br><br></dd><dd>so much, why are you here?<br><br><br><br><br></dd><dd>At 08:28 PM 8/30/2008, you wrote:<br><br></dd><dd>>On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 20:09, Jeff Harkins<br><jeffh@moscow.com> wrote:<br><br></dd><dd>><br><br></dd><dd>> > Obviously better training than you, and common sense just<br>comes as<br><br></dd><dd>part of<br><br></dd><dd>> > our kit - but then you are European, huh!<br><br></dd><dd>><br><br></dd><dd>>I'm European? Since when? I'd better get my passport<br>changed.<br><br></dd><dd>><br><br></dd><dd>> > To my Canadian friends, the author of the original message<br>does not<br><br></dd><dd>> > represent the views of most Americans. We have<br>absolute respect for<br><br></dd><dd>your<br><br></dd><dd>> > sovereignty, for your peaceful demeanor and for the<br>opportunity to<br><br></dd><dd>trade<br><br></dd><dd>> > with you.<br><br></dd><dd>><br><br></dd><dd>>I have great respect and affection for Canadians, I just don't<br>have<br><br></dd><dd>>any respect for your idiocy.<br><br></dd><dd>><br><br></dd><dd>>Chas<br><br><br></dd><dd>=======================================================<br><br></dd><dd> List services made available by First Step Internet, <br><br></dd><dd> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <br><br></dd><dd><br> <br><a href="http://www.fsr.net/" target="_blank">http://www.fsr.net</a><br> <br><br></dd><dd> <br><a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com"><br>mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</a><br><br></dd><dd>=======================================================<br></dd></pre><font face="Courier New, Courier"></font></dd></dl></blockquote>
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