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Roger,<br><br>I don't think starting to drill offshore or in ANWAR will make an appreciable difference in price, and will bring more harm than benefits.<br><br>As far as going after HRC for the sniper fire claim, fine with me. Al Gore never claimed to have 'invented' the internet, so I won't be joining you there.<br><br>Christopher Hitchens, a writer whose recent work I tend to find detestable, isn't undecided about waterboarding anymore, not after he experienced it. When it comes to war crimes, one side of the fence is better than the other or the middle.<br><br>Sunil<br><br>> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:40:31 -0700<br>> From: lfalen@turbonet.com<br>> To: ngier@uidaho.edu<br>> CC: vision2020@moscow.com<br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] There's Oil in Them Thar Trees<br>> <br>> I don't think I said hes was ignorant. That is his terminology. I think that will not have any appreciable effect on gas prices but is something that should be done for practical reasons. I remain undecided on water boarding.<br>> In regard to your post yesterday about McCain story as a POW, you mentioned Reagan flying an airplane. How about Hilary dodging sniper fire and Al Gore inventing the internet. Lets include everyone.<br>> Roger<br>> -----Original message-----<br>> From: Nick Gier ngier@uidaho.edu<br>> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:09:21 -0700<br>> To: lfalen lfalen@turbonet.com<br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] There's Oil in Them Thar Trees<br>> <br>> > <br>> > >Good advice. Everyone should follow it.<br>> > >Roger<br>> > <br>> > Hi Roger:<br>> > <br>> > Does that mean that you are prepared to withdraw your charge that <br>> > Obama was "ignorant" on this issue?<br>> > <br>> > Still waiting for you coming clean on water boarding.<br>> > <br>> > Nick<br>> > <br>> > >-----Original message-----<br>> > >From: Kenneth Marcy kmmos1@verizon.net<br>> > >Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:43:45 -0700<br>> > >To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] There's Oil in Them Thar Trees<br>> > ><br>> > > > On Monday 18 August 2008 11:00, Dave wrote:<br>> > > > > I don't have the time to look up who said it on the radio, but some<br>> > > > > pendant quoted some origination's estimates (I believe the AAA) that<br>> > > > > showed that most people don't have proper inflation. The problem was<br>> > > > > attributed to self serve stations. The total savings estimates were<br>> > > > > considerable.<br>> > > ><br>> > > > >From Natural Resources Canada, Office of Energy Efficiency:<br>> > > ><br>> > > > http://tinyurl.com/693whj<br>> > > ><br>> > > > Measure your tire pressure at least once a month. Inflate cold <br>> > > tires to the<br>> > > > recommended pressure. The correct tire inflation information for your<br>> > > > vehicle is usually indicated near the driver's door, in the glove<br>> > > > compartment or in the owner's manual. For every 28 kilopascals (4 pounds<br>> > > > per square inch) of under-inflation, fuel use increases by about <br>> > > 2 percent.<br>> > > > Properly inflated tires will last longer, make your vehicle safer to drive<br>> > > > and save fuel.<br>> > > ><br>> > > > Individual numbers may not be impressive, but cumulatively over three<br>> > > > billion American miles driven annually, they do amount to fuel, money, and<br>> > > > tire wear saved.<br>> > > ><br>> > > ><br>> > > > Ken<br>> > > ><br>> > > > =======================================================<br>> > > > List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>> > > > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br>> > > > http://www.fsr.net<br>> > > > mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > > > =======================================================<br>> > ><br>> > >=======================================================<br>> > > List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>> > > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br>> > > http://www.fsr.net<br>> > > mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > >=======================================================<br>> > <br>> > "Truth is the summit of being; justice is the application of it to <br>> > human affairs."<br>> > --Ralph Waldo Emerson<br>> > <br>> > "Abstract truth has no value unless it incarnates in human beings who <br>> > represent it, by proving their readiness to die for it."<br>> > --Mohandas Gandhi<br>> > <br>> > "Modern physics has taught us that the nature of any system cannot be <br>> > discovered by dividing it into its component parts and studying each <br>> > part by itself. . . .We must keep our attention fixed on the whole <br>> > and on the interconnection between the parts. The same is true of our <br>> > intellectual life. It is impossible to make a clear cut between <br>> > science, religion, and art. The whole is never equal simply to the <br>> > sum of its various parts." --Max Planck<br>> > <br>> > Nicholas F. Gier<br>> > Professor Emeritus, Department of Philosophy, University of Idaho<br>> > 1037 Colt Rd., Moscow, ID 83843<br>> > http://www.home.roadrunner.com/~nickgier/home.htm<br>> > 208-882-9212/FAX 885-8950<br>> > President, Idaho Federation of Teachers, AFL-CIO<br>> > http://www.roadrunner.com/~nickgier/ift.htm<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> <br>> =======================================================<br>> List services made available by First Step Internet, <br>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <br>> http://www.fsr.net <br>> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> =======================================================<br></body>
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