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Roger,<br><br>How are Afghanistan and Iraq part of the same conflict? At least in the former we can say that we were attacked by a group based in Afghanistan. In Iraq we have an illegal invasion, an occupation, and efforts to get them to sell us oil on terms we like, different from those used in other states in that region. <br><br>Sunil<br><br>> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:43:11 -0700<br>> From: lfalen@turbonet.com<br>> To: ophite@gmail.com<br>> CC: vision2020@moscow.com; donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com<br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] GITMO Detainees Can Challenge Detention<br>> <br>> No I would not keep them detained for ever. I think Afghanistan and Iraq are part of the same conflict. The only time combatants should be released during the conflict would be a prisoner exchange. Others prisoners should be tried. It depends on the circumstances, whether they should be tried by a civilian court, a miliary tribunal or under the Geneva Convention.<br>> Roger<br>> -----Original message-----<br>> From: "Andreas Schou" ophite@gmail.com<br>> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:30:22 -0700<br>> To: lfalen lfalen@turbonet.com<br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] GITMO Detainees Can Challenge Detention<br>> <br>> > Roger --<br>> > <br>> > The war in Afghanistan is over. Hostilities have ceased, and there<br>> > exists a new governing party. The "war on terror," on the other hand,<br>> > is not a "war;" rather, it is a rhetorical device. Or are you really<br>> > suggesting that we keep the prisoners in Guantanimo until the<br>> > worldwide cessation of all terrorist attacks?<br>> > <br>> > -- ACS<br>> > <br>> > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 2:09 PM, lfalen <lfalen@turbonet.com> wrote:<br>> > > Most of these people were captured on the battlefield and a more appropriately should be treated as prisoners of war. This is entirety different from criminal offenses that occur within the US. No nation that I know of has released prisoners of war while the war is in progress. If any of theses detainee are US citizens and were aressed within the US, they might legitimately be subject to the US judical system.<br>> > > Roger<br>> > > -----Original message-----<br>> > > From: Donovan Arnold donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com<br>> > > Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:02:36 -0700<br>> > > To: Chasuk chasuk@gmail.com<br>> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] GITMO Detainees Can Challenge Detention<br>> > ><br>> > >> Chas,<br>> > >><br>> > >> They were not deprived of due process of law. They were tried, and found guilty before they are sent and locked up in Gitmo. The reason they are not tried in American Civilian Courts is because they are not US Citizens and because if they were it would expose US classified information which would put US soldiers and possibly civilians at risk.<br>> > >><br>> > >> Best Regards,<br>> > >><br>> > >> Donovan<br>> > >><br>> > >> Chasuk <chasuk@gmail.com> wrote:<br>> > >> On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 18:59, Donovan Arnold<br>> > >> wrote:<br>> > >><br>> > >> > Maybe we should create an "Adopt a Detainee" program. Those that think they<br>> > >> > are innocent detainees can line up and open their homes to people considered<br>> > >> > to be unfairly detained at Gitmo. If they really believe that these people<br>> > >> > are innocent, and they are released, it would be unfair to send them back to<br>> > >> > their home country to be killed, right?<br>> > >><br>> > >> I don't have any opinion as to the guilt or innocence of the Gitmo<br>> > >> detainees, so I won't be inviting them into my house, thank you.<br>> > >> However, that doesn't mean that I believe they should have been<br>> > >> deprived of the due process of law, which is the real subject here.<br>> > >><br>> > >> Chas<br>> > >><br>> > >><br>> > >><br>> > >><br>> > ><br>> > > =======================================================<br>> > > List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>> > > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br>> > > http://www.fsr.net<br>> > > mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > > =======================================================<br>> > ><br>> <br>> =======================================================<br>> List services made available by First Step Internet, <br>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <br>> http://www.fsr.net <br>> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> =======================================================<br></body>
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